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1035 L. A. DEBATES (CENTRAL) QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS (c) No. The Government have already considered this suggestion very carefully in the past and dropped it mainly on account of the excessive expenditure involved. 445 * Non-Promotion of Certain Qualified Executive Engineers, etc., Working as Sub-Divisional Officers and Overseers 1416. Babu Ram Narayan Singh : (a) Will the Honourable the Labour Member please state whether he is aware that there is a shortage of Engineers for filling up the posts of Executive Engineers and Superintending Engineers in the Central Public Works Department both in the Buildings and Roads and in the Electrical Branches ? (b) Is he aware that there are many foreign qualified and experienced Engineers working as Sub-Divisional Officers and even overseers who are not being promoted to hold Divisional charge or higher because they are yet junior to unqualified subordinate Sub-Divisional Officers and others ? (c) Is he also aware that Government are sending students for overseas studies to make available foreign qualified hands to fill up higher appointments ? The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : (a) Yes. (b) There are some foreign qualified Engineers in the Central Public Works Department who have not yet been promoted to Divisional or higher charges, because they are either still junior to other qualified Engineers in the Department or are unfit for such promotion. (c) Yes. 446 @ Non-Promotion of Certain Qualified Executive Engineers, etc., Working as Sub-Divisional Officers and Overseers 1417. Babu Ram Narayan Singh : (a) Will the Honourable the Labour Member please place on the table of the House a list of foreign * Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. IV of 1946, 29th March 1946, p. 3160. @ Ibid., p. 3160.

1036 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES qualified and experienced Sub-Division Officers with full qualifications and total experience and length of service of each and their respective dale of appointment in the Central Public Works Department ? (b) What is the number of officers appointed directly as Executive Engineers or Superintending Engineers since 1940 ? (c) While making appointments mentioned in part (b) were the cases of each of the individuals mentioned in reply to part (a) considered for such appointments ? If not, what are the reasons ? The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : (a) A statement is laid on the table. (b) Superintending Engineers—Nil. Executive and Electrical Engineers—28, (c) With the exception of those mentioned below, the cases of all the others were duly considered. (1) Mr. B. S. Krishnaswami He is a temporary Subordinate, while all the others promoted as Executive Engineers are either permanent Subordinates or gazetted temporary engineers. (2) Messrs. A. K. Sen and Nasir Hussain. Their cases have not yet come up for consideration as they are not sufficiently high up in the seniority list, all those so far promoted as Electrical Engineers being senior to them. (d) No such undertaking can be given, as the officers mentioned in the reply to part (a) are either inexperienced or are unfit for Dvisional charge. List of Foreign Qualified Sub-Divisional Officers in the Central Public Works Department. Sr. No. Name Date of appointment in Central P.W.D. Qualification Previous experience, if any 1 2 3 4 5 I.—ENGINEERING SIDE 1. Mr. N. N. Mehla 17-9-1935 B.A., B.Sc. (Eng.) Sheffield A.M.I.E …

1037 L. A. DEBATES (CENTRAL) QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS Sr. No. Name Date of appointment in Central P.W.D. Qualification Previous experience, if any 1 2 3 4 5 2. Mr. Gurbachan Singh 5-3-1942 B.Sc. (Civil) Edinburgh. 15 months’ apprentice- ship in Central Public Works Deptt. 12 years as Superintendent, P.W.D. Kheotri State. 3. Mr. R. R, Tomar 18-5-1942 Diploma Holder of Bettersca Polytechnic. London. … 4. Mr. B. S. Krishna- swami. 13-6-1942 B.Sc. (Eng.) Rangoon (Burma). … 5. Mr. S. V. Subbarao 20-7-1942 B.A., B.Sc. (Hons.) Civil Engineering, (Edin.). 1 years’ Previous experience. 6. Mr. A. K. Das 1-1-1943 B.Sc., Civil Engineering, (Edin.). … 7. Mr. M. Rahman 19-4-1943 B.Sc., (Delhi); B.Sc. (Civil), Durham. Has had some experience with a firm in England. 8. Mr. Abdul Ghafar 11-2-1942 B.Sc, Civil Engineering (Edin.). … 9. Mr. Mohd. Shaffi 15-3-1944 C. E. (Bristol) … 10. Mr. Narinjan Singh Bisarkhi 4-4-1944 B.Sc. (Civil), Glasgow (Edin.). 15 years’ experience in M. E. S., etc. 11. Mr. S. A. Hakim 30-8-1944 Casual Overseer; C. E. (Shsffield), A. M. I. E. (Ind.), C. I. S. E. (London) 15 years’ in Punjab P. W. D. and 8 years’ District Board Service. II—ELECTRICAL SIDE 12. Mr. B. K. Mazumdar 4-5-1942 Diploma in Mech. & Elec. Engineering from Faraday House, Electrical Engineering College, London. Served for 2 years as Apprentice Engineer to Messrs. Crossley Bros., Ltd., Manchester and Southern Elec. Buildings, London. 3 years’ term with the Calcutta Supply Corporation. 13. Mr. M. N. Dutt 23-9-1942 B.Sc. (Glasgow) Has had some previous experience. Details not available. 14. Mr. A. K. Sen 13-3-1943 —Do— 15. Mr. Nasir Hussain. 1-5-1945 B.Sc. AMIEE (London).

1038 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES 447 * Terms of Appointment and Conditions of Service of Ministerial Staff Appointed by Superintendent Viceregal Estates 1419. Sardar Mangal Singh : Will the Honourable the Labour Member please place on the table of the House a sample copy of the terms of appointment and conditions of service offered to the ministerial staff appointed directly by the Superintendent, Viceregal Estates, for specific duty in Simla and or Delhi prior to the 14th July, 1936 ? The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : No particular form was prescribed for sending out offers of appointment to the staff. A copy of one of the appointment letters issued during this period is laid on the table. Copy of letter No. 1031-M, dated the 25th February 1920 from the Nukutart Secretary to His Excellency the Viceroy, Delhi to the Superintendent, Viceregal Estates. Your letter No. 279-M, dated the 20th February 1920. I sanction the appointment on probation for 6 months of Lala Dewan Chand as Store Keeper, Viceregal Estates, Simla, on Rs. 50-5-70, with effect from the 1st January 1920 vice S. Amir Chand resigned and also authorise the recovery from him of Rs. 350 of his security deposit at Rs. 10 a month. The agreement bond is returned herewith. 448 @ Revision of Allotment Rules of Government Residences 1420. Sardar Mangal Singh : (a) Will the Honourable the Labour Member please state whether it is a fact that an officer who is transferred from Delhi to Simla or a Secretariat Department at Calcutta after the 1st April 1945, on re-transfer to Delhi, loses the benefit of his previous service, and has to cam his seniority afresh for the purpose of allotment of quarters ? * Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. IV of 1946, 29th March 1946, p. 3162. @ Ibid. p. 3163.

1039 L. A. DEBATES (CENTRAL) QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS (b) What object has been achieved by not giving to such officials, seniority from the original date of qualifying posting visa-vis those who have remained on duly in Delhi, when transfers are ordered in the interest of public service? (c) As the situation with regard to residential accommodation is acute, and the persons affected are those who have put in quite a number of years in Government service and have large families, does the Honourable Member propose to examine the necessity of rescinding this decision ? The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : (a) Yes. (b) The objection aimed at was to give relief to relatively junior people whose stay in Delhi had been continuous and who had suffered more from the rigours of the Delhi housing conditions than offices stationed in Simla or Delhi. (c) The Rule will be re-examined when the general revision of the Allotment Rules is undertaken. 449 * Permission to Build more Sugar Factories in Certain Canal Irrigated Deccan Area of Bombay Province 1421. Sir. B. S. Hiray : Will the Honourable the Labour Member be pleased to state : (a) whether it is a fact that canals in the Deccan area of the Bombay Province were constructed for protective purposes ; (b) whether it is a fact that the same purpose is served, if not, whether Government propose to extend the areas under Sugar Factories for sugar cane crop ; (c) how many acres of land are irrigated by Canal water in this area, and how many of it are utilised by Sugar Factories for their purposes ; and (d) whether Government propose to allow the construction of more Sugar Factories in this area ? If not, why not ? The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : The information has been called for from the Government of Bombay and will be laid on the table of the House in due course. * Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. IV of 1946, 29th March 1946, p. 3163.