Vol. 10 · pages 206–210
As Member of the Governor-General's Executive Council, 1942–46
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emotions. I do not know what is the best pattern for an opening
address by a Chairman to the Labour Conference. For the purposes
of this session I propose to get over the difficulty by using this
opportunity of addressing you on matters of practical importance.
I feel sure that you will not regard it as inappropriate.
“There were two matters in particular which I wanted to cover
which must be of interest to members of the Conference. Firstly,
to give you a survey of the action taken by the Government on
various questions which have been discussed by the Conference
and the Standing Labour Committee and secondly, to refer to
the defects in the constitution and procedure of the Tripartite
Organisation.
“The first subject proved too large for this address. It would
have taken a good lot of your time which having regard to
your Agenda, you could ill-afford to give. I therefore thought
of presenting you a separate Memorandum (Printed with this
speech) on the subject. You are already in possession of that
memorandum. It may be taken as part of my address.
Tripartite Organisation
“There remains the other subject for me to deal with, namely,
the question regarding the organisation and procedure of this
Conference. We have had two years’ experience of the working
of the Plenary Conference and the Standing Labour Committee.
That experience cannot be called long. But short as it is, it has
revealed some weaknesses in the organisation we have set up.
The following appear to me rather serious :—
(1) There is no clear cut division of functions between the
Conference and the Standing Labour Committee. It is
not that one is a deliberative body and the other is an
executive body. Both are deliberative.
(2) There is overlaping in the work they do. The subjects
discussed by both are of the same nature.
(3) There being no clear cut distinction between general
questions and concrete problems, the discussions in the
Conference as well as in the Committee become too general
to be of much use, even concrete problems are treated as
though they were general.
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(4) There is no machinery to undertake the task of examining
special problems and reporting upon them. It is an
important function and there must be some machinery
charged with such a function.
(5) There is no machinery to study and advise on problems
of labour welfare, industry by industry.
Separate Secretariat
“A second weakness in the organisation has also been pointed
out by some members of the Conference. It relates to the nonexistence of a separate Secretariat for the Labour Conference.
It is suggested that there should be a separate Secretariat to
take over the following functions namely:—
(a) Preparation for meetings (i.e., circulation of papers,
informing members of the dates fixed, agenda, etc.);
(b) Preparation of records of the proceedings ;
(c) Propaganda by issue of leaflets and tours ;
(d) Financial administration such as payment to staff and
T.A. bills of non-Government members attending the
Conference ;
(e) Research and collection of information to serve as a basis
of discussion and recommendation ; and
(f) Check-up of the action taken by Government.
“There are two other matters which have given ground for
complaint. One of these relates to the preparation of the Agenda
of the Labour Conference and the Standing Labour Committee.
The existing procedure in the matter of the Agenda is said to be
defective in two respects. First, members of the Conference and
the Committee are not entitled to have matters in which they
are interested placed on the Agenda at their will. The second
defect is that the memoranda which accompany the Agenda reach
members so late that they have no time to study and be prepared
to make their contribution to the discussion of the subject.
“Another matter which has given rise to complaint
relates to the representation of the different parties on
the Conference and on the Standing Labour Committee.
The employers have stated that it is objectionable on the
part of Government to reserve three seats for employers to
be nominated by Government. It is their contention that
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the Employers’ Federation of India and the All-India Organisation
of Industrial Employers are fully representative of the employer
class in India and that therefore the provision for appointing
more employers’ representatives by nomination is unnecessary.
The method of representation of labour is also said to suffer from
one defect, namely, that among those who represent labour there
is none who belongs actually to the labouring classes.
“You would naturally want me to tell you what action
Government is prepared to take in this connection. I am
anxious on my part to do whatever is possible to see that the
Labour Conference functions properly and does not suffer in
its working by reason of any serious fault in its mechanism.
You will, however, realise that these are matters which require
exploration and examination before any definite conclusion can
be arrived at. Of these weaknesses some have been examined
by Government and decisions have been arrived at. There are
some which have not been examined as yet. I will first refer to
those about which Government have after consideration come
to a decision. They include the question of separate Secretariat,
Agenda and Representation.
Only An Advisory Body
“The demand for a separate Secretariat for the Labour Conference
is, I think, based on the analogy of the I.L.O. Government think
that there is a fundamental difference between the I.L.O. and our
Tripartite Organisation. It lies in the fact that the I.L.O. is an
idependent organisation created by the Peace Treaty of Versailles.
Its conventions and recommendations place definite obligations on
all State-Members and failure to fulfill those obligations involves
certain definite international liabilities. It is regulated by its
own constitution and if is not subject to any outside authority.
In addition to this the I.L.O. has its own finances and is not
dependent upon any other state or Department for meeting its
liabilities when it chooses to undertake any new function.
“Our Tripartite Organisation is not independent in the
same sense as the I.L.O. is. It has no independent finances
and it cannot have any. It is only an advisory body which
is constituted to advise the Government of India on such
matters as are referred to it for advice. It cannot take
decision. To allow it to do so would be to permit it to
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usurp the functions of the Legislature. Having regard to these
differences, it is obvious that an independent Secretariat for the
Labour Conference will create friction between Government and
the Conference.
“It is true that the efficiency of the I.L.O. is derived largely
from its Secretariat and its capacity to turn out good material.
Nonetheless the Government of India feel that all the functions of
that Secretariat with the exception of “Research and Information”
are such as can be discharged efficiently by the Labour
Secretariat of the Government of India. As regards ‘Research
and Information” the Labour Department have certain proposals
under consideration for reorganizing its activities which inter
alia will set up necessary machinery for research and collection
of information on labour and allied questions. For those reasons
the Government of India do not at present favour the idea of a
separate Secretariat for the Tripartite Organisation.
Right To Fix Agenda
“On the question of the Agenda, Government have considered
the matter. The decision of the Government is that they cannot
surrender the right to fix the Agenda of the Conference. The
Conference is not a Legislature. It is an advisory body and
Government must determine what are the matters on which
they need advice.
“There is another reason why Government cannot surrender
the right to frame the Agenda for the Conference. It is not
possible for Government to accept an obligation to place a subject
on the Agenda unless Government are in a position to furnish
the Conference factual statements which would help and guide
members in their deliberations and have had time to examine
the matter sufficiently enough to be able to express their own
view. It is not possible for Government to be ready with such
statements without sufficient notice. But, subject to their right
to frame the Agenda, Government are prepared to revise the
procedure.
“According to present procedure the Labour Department
invites suggestions from Governments, and Employers and
Workers Associations after the conclusion of a meeting
from which items are selected for an Agenda for the next
meeting. There is no consultation between Government
and the Conference or Committee before a decision is
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taken by Government in selecting items for the Agenda. Under
the revised procedure Government will be ready to receive
suggestions for the Agenda whenever Government, and Employers
and Workers Associations may desire to send them in. In case
they fail, Government will invite suggestions from delegates at
each meeting.
“The other change which Government are prepared to make
is that while the final decision will be that of the Government,
all suggestions received for the framing of the Agenda will be
placed for discussion at each meeting. This will give Government
the opportunity to consult the wishes of the members and the
members will have the opportunity to express their preference.
I am sure you will agree that this is a great improvement on
the present position.
“On the question of the composition of the Conference I admit
that there is much force in the suggestions which have been
made. If the two employers’ organisations are fully representative,
as they claim to be, obviously there is no justification for
nominating employers. In the same way, it is necessary to see
that the working classes should have not only their problems
of employment and welfare considered but that they should be
trained to do their things for themselves. This can be done by
allowing working men and working women to participate in all
Labour Conferences. You must have been aware of the fact that
recently when the Coalmines Welfare Committee was organised
Government took the step of appointing one working man and
one working woman in the coalmines to represent the working
classes on the Committee.
Constitution : Some Suggestions
“Government are therefore not averse to making appropriate
changes in the composition of the Conference. At the same
time, Government feel that matters relating to changes in the
composition of the Conference are not very urgent and we could
well afford to postpone their consideration for a while. As I said
in the course of the first Tripartite Conference, we must not keep
on pulling out the plant every now and then to see whether it
has taken any roots. This is a way to kill the plant.
“I will now turn to the weaknesses in the constitution of the
Conference. This is a weakness which Government admit is a serious