Vol. 10 · pages 746–750
As Member of the Governor-General's Executive Council, 1942–46
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(d) Prior to 1st March 1943, no free ration was admissible
to Administrative Officers; since then the concession has been
extended to them at the same rate allowed to Civil Pioneers,
namely, at a cost of Rs. 15 per mensem per head. Of late owing
to fluctuations in prices of foodstuffs it has not been possible to
maintain the rate. The Provincial Government have, therefore,
been authorised to purchase rations on the approved scale at a
cost not greater than the prevailing market rates provided the
purchase is made by the Provincial authorities themselves.
STATEMENT
Part (a)
1942
Central Provinces and Berar … … 5
1943
1942
Orissa … … 2
1943
1942
Madras … … 1
1943
Bombay … … Nil …
Punjab … … 1942 …
1943 3
United Provinces … … 1942
1943 1
Bihar … … 1942 …
1943 2
Bengal … … 1942 3
1943 11
North West Frontier Province … … 1942 1
1943 2
Total ... 31
It should be noted that the two classes of Officers are of quite separate status. If a
candidate is accepted as an Administrative Officer, the Provincial Governments are
under no obligation to elevate him to Commissioned Officer grade. In certain cases,
however, Administrative Officers, who have proved their worth, have been granted
Commissions as 2nd Lieutenants when vacancies occurred.
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STATEMENT
Part (c)
Province Non-
Brah-
mins
Brah-
mins
Back-
ward
Classes
Sche-
duled
Castes
Mus-
lims
Chris-
tians
Anglo
Indians
C. P. and Berar :
Commissioned Officers 5 4 1 2 3 1 …
Administrative Officers 8 5 … … … 1 …
Orissa :
Commissioned Officers 18 9 1 … 4 2 …
Administrative Officers … …. …. …. …. …. ….
Madras :
Commissioned Officers 34 … … 7 7 15* …
Administrative Officers … … … … … … …
Bombay :
Commissioned Officers 2 6 … 3 2 … …
Administrative Officers 4 1 1 … 1 … ...
Punjab:
Commissioned Officers 11 … … 2 13 1 …
Administrative Officers 8 … … … 9 … …
United Provinces :
Commissioned Officers 15 … … 4 5 2 1
Administrative Officers 7 2 4 1
Bihar:
Commissioned Officers 17 … … 2 5 2 …
Administrative Officers … … … … … … …
Bengal :
Commissioned Officers 31 … … 17 56 7 …
Administrative Officers … … … … … … …
North West Frontier Province :
Commissioned Officers … … … … 19 … …
Administrative Officers 1 … … … 7 … …
TOTAL 161 25 3 39 135 32 1
* Includes both.
STATEMENT
Part (e)
1942 2Central Provinces and Berar … … 1943
Orissa … … 1942 Nil2
Madras … … 1943 1
1942 1Bombay … … 1943
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Punjab … … 1942 …
1943 3
United Provinces … … Nil
1942 …
Bihar 1943 1
1942 2
Bengal … … 1943 11
1942 …
North West Frontier Province … … 1943 1
Total … 24
Clerks in the Civil Pioneer Force are on a relatively low rate of pay consequently
not many of them are suitable for promotion to Administrative Officer.
Mr. G. Rangiah Naidu : Is it not a fact that in the beginning
of the war these Administrative Officers were allowed to apply
for posts of Commissioned Officers if and when vacancies arose ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I have no
information on the point.
157
*Accommodation for Women
Government Servants
112. Sir F. E. James : Will the Honourable Member for
Labour be pleased to state :
(a) if there is a Labour Department rule to the effect that
no Government servant earning less than Rs. 600 per
month is entitled to accommodation in a Government
hostel, hotel or other residence in Delhi or New Delhi
classified as “first class accommodation”;
(b) whether this rule applies to women Government
servants;
(c) if the answer to (b) is in the affirmative, if any variation
of the rule is made in the case of women Government
servants who live away from their homes and for whom
the available accommodation is not suitable, or who,
though not drawing more than Rs. 600 per month, are
filling posts whose permanent male incumbents draw
more than that amount;
(d) the composition of the Accommodation Advisory Committee;
* Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. I of 1944, 16th February 1944, p. 283.
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(c) if this Committee is empowered to authorise departures
from the above rule in suitable cases; and
(f) in how many cases this Committee has relaxed the rule
in respect of women Government servants ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : (a) Yes.
(b) Yes.
(c) No.
(d) (i) Lt. General T. J. Hutton, C.B., M.C.
(ii) The Honourable Mr. H. C. Prior, C.S.I., C.I.E., I.C.S.
(iii) The Honourable Mr. E. Conran-Smith, C.S.I., CLE., I.C.S.
(iv) Mr. G. Mackworth-Young, C.I.E., I.C.S.
(e) No, the Committee can only make recommendations to His
Excellency the Governor-General.
(f) In view of the answer to (e) above, this does not arise.
Sir F. E. James : My Honourable friend is doubtless aware of
the hardship which the rigid application of this rule inflicts upon
a number of perfectly good, hard-working and deserving women in
Government service ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I am aware of that.
Mr. N. M. Joshi : May I ask if the Government of India propose
to introduce rationing of accommodation in view of the difficulty felt
by several people ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I can give no answer
at this stage.
Pandit Lakshmi Kanta Maitra : May I ask when was this
Accommodation Advisory Committee appointed and who appointed it ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I have no information
available at this stage.
158
Introduction of Women Labour in Coal Mines
114. Mr. Lalchand Navalrai : (a) Will the Honourable the
Labour Member be pleased to state whether it is a fact that the
Honourable Member has re-introduced women labour in coal mines ?
* Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. I of 1944, 16th February 1944, pp.
285-86.
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(b) Is it a fact that women labour in coal mines in India was
abolished under popular pressure ?
(c) Is it a fact that Mr. Amery, Secretary of State for India,
evaded the question put to him recently in the House of Commons,
as to whether women labourers were paid the same wages as men,
and whether they were working under ground ?
(d) Does the Honourable Member propose to make a statement
on the two points referred to in (c) above ?
(e) Is it a fact that man labour for coal mines is available
in India ? If so, why is not that labour being utilized instead of
women labour ?
(f) Is it a fact that the women are employed because they work
harder and are satisfied with little, though their health suffers and
their families are broken ? If not, what are the special reasons to
re-engage women instead of men ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : (a) Women labourers
are now allowed to work underground in coal mines in the Central
Provinces and Berar, Bengal, Bihar and Orissa.
(b) It has been for many years the deliberate policy of the
Government of India that women labour should not be allowed
to be employed underground in coal mines in India. Provision to
this end was made in the Indian Mines Act, 1923. In 1929 women
began to be excluded from underground workings and the process
was complete in 1937.
(c) I have no information.
(d) No. I made a statement on these two points in answering the
adjournment motion moved by Mrs. Renuka Ray on 8th February.
(c) Women have been allowed to work underground owing to
the severe shortage of male labour. As soon as there is an assured
male labour force sufficient to raise the quantity of coal required
by Government, Government will consider reimposing the ban on
the employment of women underground. Government are taking
immediate steps to import male labour into Bengal and Bihar
coalfields.
(f) No. As stated in answer to (e) women have been allowed
underground in certain coalfields because sufficient men were not
available.
Mr. Lalchand Navalrai: With reference to part (b), may I
know if it is a fact that labour of women was abolished under
public pressure ?