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950 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: Why ? It is an administrative act. Sri M. Ananthasayanam Ayyangar : If they were constructed at the beginning of the war and the life is 8 to 10 years and they are to exist three years more, why does the Honourable Member think it necessary to spend Rs. 25 lakhs ? The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I have said the matter is under consideration. No figure has been fixed. Mr. M. Asaf Ali : I do not quite follow the Honourable Member’s last but one answer. He said something about an administrative act which did not require the sanction of this House. The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I did not say that. I said it was an administrative act for which the House need not be consulted. The money will be provided for in the Budget. Mr. M. Asaf Ali: I want to know if the money is sanctioned. The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : It will come up for sanction. Mr. M. Asaf Ali: In what form are you bringing it up ? The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : That is a matter for the Finance Member. Mr. M. Asaf Ali: I want him to answer it. It is no use the Honourable Member taking up that high-handed attitude and saying it is an administrative act. He has got to answer us. Mr. Sasanka Sekhar Sanyal: Answer. (No answer — Interruptions.) Mr. President: Order, order. We will now take up the adjournment motion. 368 * Dearth of Accommodation in Delhi and New Delhi 155. Sir Hassan Suhrawardy : (a) Is the Honourable the Labour Member aware that, in spite of the cessation of hostilities, there is still a great dearth of accommodation in Delhi and New Delhi ? (b) Is he aware that, in spite of the promulgation of the New Delhi Rent Control Order and the Delhi Rent Ordinance, landlords are still * Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. I of 1946, 11th February 1946, p. 753.

951 L. A. DEBATES (CENTRAL) QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS harassing tenants and taking advantage of every possible loophole in the law? (c) Do Government propose to consider the desirability of keeping the aforesaid enactments in force until normal conditions prevail at least and until this Assembly enacts some law to regulate the relations between landlords and tenants in the Delhi Province? The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: (a) Yes. (b) I have not received any complaints recently. (c) It is the intention of the government of India that rents should continue to be controlled in New Delhi and Delhi until normal conditions returns. 369 * British and Non-Indian Public Utility Concerns 172. Mr. K. C. Neogy : Will the Honourable the Labour Member be pleased to state the number of public utility concerns owned by British and other non-Indian interests in India, indicating the amount of the capital involved in such concerns, and the policy of Government in the matter of acquiring these concerns on behalf of the State or Municipal or other statutory bodies in India ? The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: The question will be answered by the Honourable Member in charge of the Planning and Development on the 18th February, 1946. 370 @ Operation of Scheme for Training of Technicians Abroad 173. Mr. K. C. Neogy : (a) Will the Honourable the Labour Member be pleased to lay on the table of the House a comprehensive statement regarding the operation of the scheme for sending technicians already employed in Industries abroad for further training * Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. I of 1946, 11th February 1946, p. 769. @ Ibid

952 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES or for enlarging their industrial or professional experience, announced last year, giving particulars specially as regards the number of technicians who have already proceeded to the different countries, the different course they are going to take up, the processes of selection of the said technicians, and the consideration governing such selection ? (b) How many applicants, if any, arc yet to be sent from among those who have already been selected, how many if any, more technicians are likely to be sent out likewise in the current year, and in what subjects are these technicians likely to be trained and in which countries ? (c) What will be the estimated cost to the Central Government involved in the training of these technicians, and what will be the cost, if any, to the Provincial Governments concerned? The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : (a) A statement is laid on the table of the House. (b) 152 candidates have yet to be sent amongst those already selected. Particulars of the training facilities required for each candidate have been sent to the authorities concerned. Arrangements are made for sending the candidates as soon as intimation is received that the training facilities required by him will be available. It is not possible at this stage to say how many more candidates over and above those already selected will be sent in the current year or the subjects in which they may be trained. This will depend on the availability of training facilities abroad. (c) Under the scheme the training and other expenses of the candidates are borne by the respective employers i.e., private industry, Central and Provincial Governments and the Indian States, as the case may be. The scheme also provides for financial assistance from the Central Government to candidates from private industry where the training is in a new industry or an industry whose development is considered desirable in the national interest and the employer is unable to bear the full cost. The cost to the Central Government during 1946-47 in respect of candidates selected from amongst Central Government employees and a few cases from private industry where such assistance may be given is estimated to be Rs. 1,01,680.

953 L. A. DEBATES (CENTRAL) QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS The estimated cost to the Provincial Governments in respect of candidates selected from amongst Provincial Government employees during 1946-47 will be about Rs. 3,60,000. 371 Accounts Re: Gorakhpur Labour in Coal Mines 31. Mr. K. C. Neogy : (a) Will the Honourable the Labour Member be pleased to state whether all the expenditure incurred on account of the recruitment and employment of the Gorakhpur labour in coal mines has been regularly audited and has been found by audit to be entirely in order ? Up to which date have such accounts been audited? (b) What is the name and designation of the Officer in-charge of the Labour Force and what is the name of his Secretary ? What are the emoluments to which they are respectively entitled, and what is the extent of the financial authority of the Officerin-charge. The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: (a) First part, Yes, and the accounts have been reported to be in order. (b) First part—Mr. H. J. Walsh, Deputy Director, Labour Supply (Coal). There is no Secretary attached to him. Second part—His scale of pay is 1,925—50—2,075. He has been authorised to incur expenditure at an overall rate not exceeding Rs. 60 per labourer per month, to cover the pay of labourers, pay of clerical, inferior and medical staff, cost of rations, and expediture on T. A. and contingencies. In all cases expenditure incurred must be in accordance with scales approved by Government. 372 * Expenditure on Gorakhpur Labour in Coal Mines 32. Mr. K. C. Neogy : Will the Honourable the Labour Member be pleased to state: (a) the amount so far spent on the Gorakhpur labour employed in coal mines, * Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. I of 1946, 11th February 19-16, p. 773. @ Ibid.

954 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES (b) the amount realised so far from the owners of mines who employed the Gorakhpur labour, (c) the number of members of the Gorakhpur labour force employed in (i) Railway-owned collieries and (ii) collieries owned by public companies and individuals, and (d) the names of those mines where the Gorakhpur labour has been employed. The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : (a) Rs. 1,91,05,386 upto the end of January 1946. (b) Rs. 22,52,311 actually recovered upto the end of December 1945. Rs. 29,48,302 are still outstanding for the period upto the end of December and estimated amount to be billed for January 1946 is Rs. 16 lakhs. (c) Number employed in— (i) Railway Collieries 7 per cent, (ii) Collieries owned by Public companies 83 per cent, and (iii) Collieries owned by individuals 10 per cent. Total labour force as on 19th January 1946—17,391. Greatest number employed in any one month.—30,600. (d) A statement is placed on the table. STATEMENT List of Mines Surface (1) Madhuband (14) South Tisra (2) Diamone Tisra (15) East Bararee (3) Model Jharia (16) Pure Joyrampur (17) North Bararee (4) A. G. Tisra (18) G. P. C’s. Jinagora (5) Lower Upper Jharia (19) Basudev ‘ A ’ Plot Colliery (6) Indian Jharia (20) Pathardih Sudamdih (7) Bagdigi Kujama (21) Pure Tasra (8) K. P.’s Dobari (22) New Tasra (9) Bhalgora (23) Central Bhowra (10) Ghanuyadih (24) Bhowra (11) Bagechi’s Dobari (25) Mohulboni (12) Pandalbcrra (26) East Ekra (13) Khas Jharia Dobari (27) Busserya