Vol. 11 · pages 276–280
The Buddha and His Dhamma
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20. But for argument’s sake let it be granted that
a thing exists although it is invisible.
21. The best illustration of it is electricity. It exists
although it is invisible.
22. This argument is not enough.
23. An invisible thing must show itself in some other
form that is visible. Then alone it can be called real.
24. But if an invisible thing does not show itself in
any visible form then it is not a reality.’
25. We accept reality of electricity although it is
invisible because of the results it produces.
26. Electricity produces light. From light we accept
the reality of electricity although it is invisible.
27. What does this invisible Brahma produce? Does
it produce any visible results ?
28. The answer is in the negative.
29. Another illustration may be given. In law too
it is common to adopt as a basic concept a fiction— a
proposition, the existence of which is not proved but
which is assumed to be true.
30. And we all accept such a legal fiction.
31. But why is such a legal fiction accepted?
32. The reason is that a legal fiction is accepted
because it gives a fruitful and just result.
33. “Brahma is a fiction. What fruitful result does
it give ? ”
34. Vasettha and Bharadvaj were silent.
35. To drive the argument home he turned to
Yasettha and asked “Have you seen Brahma ? ”
36. “Is there a single one of the Brahmanas versed in
three Vedas who has ever seen Brahma face to face ? ”
37. “No, indeed, Gautama.”
38. “Is there a single one of the teachers of the
Brahmanas versed in the three Vedas who have seen
Brahma face to face ? ”
39. “No, indeed, Gautama.”
40. “Is there, Vasettha, a single one of the Brahmanas
upto the seventh generation who has seen Brahma face
to face ? ”
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41. “No, indeed, Gautama.”
42. “Well then, Vasettha—did the ancient Rishis of
the Brahmanas—did even they speak thus, saying : ‘We
know it, we have seen it, where Brahma is, whither
Brahma is ?’
43. “Not so, Gautama.”
44. The Buddha continued his questioning of the
two Brahmin boys and said :
45. “Now what think you, Vasettha ? Does it not
follow, this being so, that the talk of the Brahmanas
about union with Brahma turns out to be foolish talk ?
46. “Just, Vasettha, as when a string of blind men
are clinging one to the other, neither can the foremost
see, nor can the middle one see, nor can the hindmost
see—just even so, methinks, Vasettha, is the talk of
the Brahmanas all but blind talk ? The first sees not,
the middle one sees not, nor can the last one. The talk
of these Brahmanas turns out to be ridiculous, mere
words, a vain and empty thing.
47. “Just, Vasettha, as if a man should say, ‘How I
long for, how I love the most beautiful woman in this
land.’
48. “And people should ask him, ‘Well ! good friend !
This most beautiful woman in the land, whom you thus
love and long for, do you know whether that beautiful
woman is a noble lady or a Brahmin woman, or of the
trader class, or a Sudra ? ’
49. “But when so asked, he would answer: ‘No.’
50. “And when people should ask him, ‘Well! good
friend! This most beautiful woman in all the land, whom
you love and long for, do you know what the name of
that most beautiful woman is, or what her family name,
whether she be tall or short or of medium height, dark
or brunette or golden in colour, or in what village or
town or city she dwells ?’ But when so asked, he would
answer : ‘No.’
51. “Now what think you, Vasettha? Would it not
turn out that being so, that the talk of that man was
foolish talk ?”
52. “In sooth, Gautama, that would be so,” said the
two Brahmins.
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53. So Brahma is not real and any religion based
upon it is useless.
§ 4. Belief in Soul is Not Dhamma
1. The Buddha said that religion based on soul is
based on speculation.
2. Nobody has seen the soul or has conversed with
the soul.
3. The soul is unknown and unseen.
4. The thing that exists is not the soul but the mind.
Mind is different from the soul.
5. Belief in soul He said is unprofitable.
6. A religion based on soul is therefore not worth
having.
7. It only ends in creating superstition.
8. The Buddha did not leave the question there. He
discussed it in all its aspects.
9. Belief in the existence of soul is as common as
the belief in the existence of God.
10. Belief in the existence of soul was also a part
of the Brahmanic Religion.
11. In the Brahmanic Religion the soul is called
Atma or Atman.
12. In the Brahmanic Religion, Atman is the name
given to an entity which was held to be abiding separate
from the body, but living inside the body constantly
existing from the moment of his birth.
13. Belief in the soul included other beliefs, connected
with it.
14. The soul does not die with the body. It takes
birth in another body when it comes into being.
15. The body serves as an external clothing for the
soul.
16. Did the Buddha believe in the soul? No. He did
not. His doctrine about the soul is called An-atta, no soul.
17. Given a disembodied soul various questions
arise : What is the soul ? Where did it come from ?
What becomes of it on the death of the body ? Where
does it go ? In what form does it exist “hereafter.”
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How long does it remain there ? These questions the
Buddha tried to argue out with the upholders of the
doctrine of the soul.
18. He first tried to show how vague was the idea
about the soul by his usual method of cross-examination.
19. He asked those who believed in the existence of
the soul, what the soul was like in size and in shape.
20. To Ananda he said the declarations concerning
the soul are abounding. Some declare : “My soul has a
form and it is minute.” Others declare the soul to have
form and to be boundless and minute. Others declare
it to be formless and boundless.
21. “In so many ways, Ananda, are declarations
made concerning the soul.”
22. “How is the soul conceived by those who believe in
the soul ?” was another question raised by the Buddha.
Some say, “My soul is feeling.” Others say, “Nay, my
soul is not feeling, my soul is not sentient” ; or again :
“Nay, my soul is not feeling, nor is it non-sentient ; my
soul has feeling, it has the property of sentience.” Under
such aspects as these is the soul conceived.
23. The Buddha next asked those who believed in
the existence of the soul as to the condition of the soul
after the death of the body.
24. He also raised the question whether the soul
was visible after the death of the body.
25. He found infinite number of vague statements.
26. Does the soul keep its form after the death of
the body ? He found that there were eight different
speculations.
27. Does the soul die with the body ? There were
innumerable speculations on this.
28. He also raised the question of the happiness
or misery of the soul after the body is dead. Is the
soul happy after the death of the body? On this also
the Recluses and Brahmins differed. Some said it was
altogether miserable. Some said it was happy. Some
said it is both happy and miserable and some said it
is neither happy nor miserable.
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29. His answer to all these theories about the
existence of the soul was the same which he gave to
Cunda.
30. To Cunda he said : “Now, Cunda, to those
recluses and Brahmins, who believe and profess any one
of these views, I go and say this : ‘Is this so, friends?’
And if they reply: ‘Yes. This alone is true, any other
view is absurd.’ I do not admit their claim. Why is
this ? Because persons hold different opinions on such
questions. Nor do I consider this (or that) view on a
level with my own, let alone higher.”
31. Now the more important question is what were
the arguments of the Buddha against the existence of
the soul.
32. The general arguments he advanced in support
of his denial of the soul were the same as those which
he advanced in support of his denial of the existence
of God.
33. He argued that the discussion of the existence
of the soul is as unprofitable as the discussion of the
existence of God.
34. He argued that the belief in the existence of
the soul is as much against the cultivation of Samma
Ditthi as the belief in the existence of God.
35. He argued that the belief in the existence of the
soul is as much a source of superstition as the belief in
God is. Indeed in his opinion the belief in the existence
of a soul is far more dangerous than the belief in God.
For not only does it create a priesthood, not only is it
the origin of all superstition but it gives the priesthood
complete control over man from birth to death.
36. Because of these general arguments it is said
that the Buddha did not express any definite opinion
on the existence of the soul. Others have said that he
did not repudiate the theory of the existence of the soul.
Others have said that he was always dodging the issue.
37. These statements are quite incorrect. For to
Mahali he did tell in most positive terms that there is