Vol. 11 · pages 351–355
The Buddha and His Dhamma
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are the plastic forces of the body and speech and mind
stilled and quiescent but also vitality is exhausted,
heat is quenched and the faculties of sense broken up ;
whereas in the almsman in trance vitality persists, heat
abides, and the faculties are clear, although respiration,
observation and perception are stilled and quiescent.”
34. This probably is the best and most complete
exposition of Death or Annihilation.
35. There is only one lacuna in this dialogue. MahaKotthita should have asked Sariputta one question.
What is heat ?
36. What answer Sariputta would have given it is
not easy to imagine. But there can be no doubt that
heat means energy.
37. Thus amplified, the real answer to the question :
What happens when the body dies ? is : The body ceases
to produce energy.
38. But this is only a part of the answer. Because
death also means that whatever energy that had escaped
from the body joins the general mass of energy playing
about in the Universe.
39. Annihilation has therefore a two-fold aspect.
In one of its aspects it means cession of production of
energy. In another aspect it means a new addition to
the stock of general floating mass of energy.
40. It is probably because of this two-fold aspect of
annihilation that the Buddha said that he was not an
absolute annihilationist. He was an annihilationist so
far as soul was concerned. He was not an annihilationist
so far as matter was concerned.
41. So interpreted it is easy to understand why the
Buddha said that he was not an annihilationist. He
believed in the regeneration of matter and not in the
rebirth of the soul.
42. So interpreted, the Buddha’s view is in consonance
with science.
43. It is only in this sense that the Buddha could
be said to have believed in rebirth.
44. Energy is never lost. That is what science
affirms. Annihilation in the sense that after death
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nothing is left would be contrary to science. For it would
mean that energy is not constant in volume.
45. This is the only way by which the dilemma
could be solved.
§3. Rebirth of Whom ?
1. The most difficult question is Rebirth of Whom.
2. Does the same dead person take a new birth ?
3. Did the Buddha believe in this thesis? The answer
is “Most improbable.”
4. The answer depends upon the elements of
existence of the dead man meeting together and forming
a new body then the possibility of the Rebirth of the
same Sentient being is possible.
5. If a new body is formed after a mixture or the
different elements of the different men who are dead
then there is rebirth but not the rebirth of the same
sentient being.
6. This point has been well explained by sister
Khema to King Pasenadi.
7. Once the Exalted One was staying near Savatthi
at Jeta Grove in Anathapindika’s Aram.
8. Now on that occasion the sister Khema, after going
her rounds among the Kosalana, took up her quarters
at Toranavatthu, between Shravasti and Saketa.
9. Now the Rajah Pasenadi of Kosala was journeying
from Saketa to Shravasti, and midway between Saketa
and Shravasti he put up for one night at Toranavatthu.
10. The Rajah Pasenadi of Kosala called a certain
man and said : “Come thou, good fellow ! Find out some
recluse or brahmin such that I can wait upon him today.”
11. “Even so, your majesty,” said that man in reply
to the Rajah Pasenadi of Kosala, and after wandering
through all Toranavatthu he saw not any one, either
recluse or brahmin, on whom the Rajah Pasenadi might
wait.
12. Then that man saw the sister Khema, who
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had come to reside at Toranavatthu. And on seeing
her he went back to the Rajah Pasenadi of Kosala,
and said :—
13. “Your Majesty, there is no recluse or brahmin
in Toranavatthu such that your majesty can wait upon
him. But, your majesty, there is a sister named Khema,
a woman-disciple of that Exalted One. Now of this lady
a lovely rumour has gone abroad, that she is sage,
accomplished, shrewd, widely learned, a brilliant talker,
of goodly ready wit. Let your majesty wait upon her.”
14. So the Rajah Pasenadi of Kosala went to visit
the sister Khema, and on coming to her saluted and
sat down at one side. So seated he said to her :—
15. “How say you, lady ? Does the Tathagata exist
after death ?”
16. “That also, maharajah is not revealed by the
Exalted One.”
17. “How then, lady ? When asked ‘Does the
Tathagata exist after death ?’ you reply, “That is not
revealed by the Exalted One,’ and, when I ask . . . the
other questions, you make the same reply. Pray, lady,
what is the reason, what is the cause, why this thing
is not revealed by the Exalted One ?”
18. “Now in this matter, maharajah, I will question
you. Do you reply as you think fit. Now how say you,
maharajah ? Have you some accountant, some ready
reckoner or calculator, able to count the sand in Ganges,
thus : There are so many hundred grains, or so many
thousand grains, or so many hundreds of thousands of
grains of sand ?”
19. “No, indeed, lady.”
20. “Then have you some accountant, ready reckoner
or calculator able to reckon the water in the mighty
ocean, thus : There are so many gallons of water, so
many hundreds, so many thousands, so many hundreds
of thousand gallons of water ?”
21. “No, indeed, lady.”
22. “How is that ?”
23. “Mighty is the ocean, lady, deep, boundless,
unfathomable.”
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24. “Even so, maharajah, if one should try to define
the Tathagata by his bodily form, that bodily form of
the Tathagata is abandoned, cut down at the root, made
like a palm-tree stump, made some thing that is not,
made of a nature not to spring up again in future time.
Set free from reckoning as body, maharajah, is the
Tathagata. He is deep, boundless, unfathomable, just
like the mighty ocean. To say, ‘The Tathagata exists
after death’ does not apply. To say, ‘The Tathagata exists
not after death,’ does not apply. To say, ‘The Tathagata
both exists and exists not, neither exists nor not exists
after death,’ does not apply.
25. “If one should try to define the Tathagata by
feeling,—that feeling of the Tathagata is abandoned,
cut down at the root . . . Yet free from reckoning as
feeling is the Tathagata, maharajah, deep, boundless,
unfathomable like the mighty ocean. To say, ‘The
Tathagata exists after death . . . exists not after death,’
does not apply.
26. “So also if one should try to define the Tathagata
by perception, by the activities, by consciousness ... set
free from reckoning by consciousness is the Tathagata,
deep, boundless, unfathomable as the mighty ocean. To
say, ‘The Tathagata exists after death . . . exists not
after death,’ does not apply.”
27. Then the Rajah Pasenadi of Kosala was delighted
with the words of the sister Khema, and took pleasure
therein. And he rose from his seat, saluted her by the
right and went away.
28. Now on another occasion the Rajah went to
visit the Exalted One, and on coming to him saluted
him and sat down at one side. So seated he said to the
Exalted One :
29. “Pray, Lord, does the Tathagata exist after
death ?”
30. “Not revealed by me, maharajah, is this matter.”
31. “Then Lord, the Tathagata does not exist after
death.”
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32. “That also, maharajah, is not revealed by me.”
33. He then asks the other questions and gets the
same reply.
34. “How then, Lord ? When I ask the question,
‘Does the Tathagata exist ? . . . does he not exist after
death ?’ you reply, ‘It is not revealed by me.’ Pray, Lord,
what is the reason, what is the cause why this thing
is not revealed by the Exalted One ?”
35. “Now, maharajah, I will question you. Do you
reply as you think fit. Now what say you, maharajah ?
Have you some accountant . . . (the rest is exactly as
before).’
36. “Wonderful, Lord ! Strange it is, Lord, how the
explanation both of Master and disciple, both in spirit
and in letter, will agree, will harmonize, will not be
inconsistent, that is, in any word about the highest.
37. “On a certain occasion, Lord, I went to visit the
sister Khema, and asked her the meaning of this matter,
and she gave me the meaning in the very words, in
the very syllables used by the Exalted One. Wonderful,
Lord ! Strange it is, Lord, how the explanation both of
Master and disciple will agree, will harmonize, in spirit
and in letter, how they will not be inconsistent,—that
is, in any word about the highest.
38. “Well, Lord, now we must be going. We are busy
folk. We have many things to do.
39. “Do now what you think it is time for,
maharajah.”
40. Thereupon the Rajah Pasenadi of Kosala was
delighted with the words of the Exalted One and
welcomed them. And he rose from his seat, saluted the
Exalted One by the right and went away.