Vol. 14, Part II · pages 446–450
Dr. Ambedkar and the Hindu Code Bill
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Shri Rajagopalachari : It is a kind of adoption in Punjab.
Sardar Hukam Singh : It is not power of attorney. It is made-easy.
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : I beg to move :
For part (viii) renumbered as part (xi) of clause 3, substitute the
following :
“(xi) ‘son’ includes an appointed heir and an adopted son whether
appointed or adopted before or after the commencement of this Code
but does not include an illegitimate son.”
As the House probably knows, the appointment of an heir is a special
custom in Punjab.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : We were considering the definition of ‘son’.
So far as an heir or a person who is appointed as an heir is concerned,
it may be that he may be appointed as an heir for the purpose of the
property. In fact, it may be a person who may be fit enough to marry
the daughter of the person appointing him as the heir.
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : By custom, he is equivalent to
a son. Therefore, he cannot marry his own sister. The person who is
appointed as heir carries an intimate relationship. He is just like a son
for all practical purposes.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : Even to the extent of coming into the prohibited
degree ?
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : Yes. He comes into that family.
There are several customs with regard to appointed heirs in the territory
which is now under the Commissionership of Ambala. It is just like
adoption. There is absolutely no difference between adoption and the
appointment of an heir. The ceremonies even are sometimes the same.
The person who is appointed as heir is treated more or less as the son.
He cannot marry the daughter of the appointer, because the daughter
of the appointer is his sister. No person in Punjab will ever believe that
the daughter of the appointing father can possibly be married to that
boy. He could not marry even a cousin. He is treated just like a son. The
only difference is that, so far as the eligibility of an heir is concerned,
he may be a married man with sons and daughters.
Dr. Ambedkar : He can also be a man with dhadi.
Shri Rajagopalachari : The hon. Member will perhaps educate us
in the matter—is it open, according to that custom to appoint ones own
son-in-law as his son ?
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : In that case he is called ‘ghar-javai ’.
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Mr. Deputy Speaker : Corresponding to this there is a custom in
the south—it is called ‘illatom adoption’.
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : This custom is not only judicially
recognised ; it is so widely prevalent that it is as good as law. It is a fully
establishied custom, it has got more force, perhaps, than the ordinary
law of the land. It is universally acknowledged among the Hindus, Sikhs
as well as the Muslims. The relationship created thereby is not merely
of gift, or mere apointment of an heir. The relationship is personal; the
appointed heir is treated as a son and he lives with the father.
Dr. Ambedkar : For property purposes.
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : For property purposes as well as
for relationship. He cannot marry the daughter, as an outsider does.
Therefore it is not a question of merely property ; it is a question of
personal relationship.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : Can the son be older than the father ?
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : He can be older, just as a nephew
can be older than the person adopting. Supposing a brother adopts the
son of a brother. The son of a brother may be older to him in age than
the person appointing.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : Is there any ceremony attached to it ?
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : It is done in several ways. It must
be made public ; so there is a registered deal in some cases. The entire
family is collected and the boy is accepted as heir. In some places even
the ceremony is gone through. Practically it is tantamount to adoption.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : In those parts where this custom is prevalent,
is there regular adoption as well ? Or is it the contention that wherever
this custom of having ‘appointed heir’ prevails, regular adoption does
not take place ?
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : This is, as a matter of fact, in
addition to that.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : Can a man have both, an adopted son as well
as an appointed heir.
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : Even in a family, one brother may
have an adopted son, while another brother may have an appointed
heir. But there is no difference so far as relationsip is concerned. This
custom obtains among Muslims as well.
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Khwaja Inait Ullah (Bihar) : In Muslim law there is no adoption.
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : I am not dealing with Muslim
law ; I am speaking of Muslim customs. Almost every Punjabi Muslim
follows custom.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : But it is so prevalent that it can be brought
under this definition.
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : Nobody can doubt the validity of
this custom. You can take any treatise on customary law and you will
find that the appointment of a heir is a customary practice.
Shri Radhelal Vyas : Is a female appointed as an heir ?
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : But she cannot become a son.
Dr. Ambedkar : In view of the fact that it has been decided to confine
this Bill to marriage and divorce, the point raised by my Hon. Friend
may very well come when we are dealing with the matter of adoption.
There we can discuss this question as to whether we can include what
he calls an appointed son in the definition of adopted son. There, if
he is able to satisfy that custom is a custom which this House should
permit, in view of the definition which we have just now passed, we
will consider that question. Here we are for the moment dealing with
marriage and divorce.
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : But you have used the word “son”
here ; otherwise there will be no need for any definition.
Dr. Ambedkar : As you know in the Chapter on Adoption, we have
tried to introduce a uniform system, we are not recognising any of the
variants of adoption. We say that adoption should be one common system
throughout. We have also said there that so far as the ceremonies of
adoption are concerned, they may be different. We do not bother about
it. If the appointment of a son is satisfactory from the point of view
of the deifnition of adoption, namely, the giving and the taking, the
putting of the sugar in the mouth of the boy and the performance of
some sacrifice, well the particular ceremonies by which they do it will
not make the appointed son an adopted son.
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : Unfortunately, I have not been
able to express myself in a way as to carry conviction to Dr. Ambedkar.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : The point raised by Pandit Bhargava has
relevance to marriage as well.
Dr. Ambedkar : I am afraid, without a perfect understanding of
the custom, I am not able to come to any decision—the circumstances,
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the custom, the reasonableness or otherwise. Nor has my friend been
able to give us any clear picture. I want to apply my mind to that
subject and come to a conclusion as to whether it would be possible for
Government to accept his proposal. All of a sudden it is not possible.
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Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava : Let it be held over.
Dr. Ambedkar : We can add it afterwards.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : May I suggest one course ? As it is, there
is no objection to passing this. The only attempt is to include some
other category. Therefore this may be passed now, because we are not
passing the entire clause 3. We can add one more category later. With
that understanding I will put this part to the vote of the House, the
question is :
“That part (viii) renumbered as part (xi) of clause 3 stand part of
the Bill.”
The motion was adopted.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : Now we will proceed to clause 4.
Capt. A. P. Singh : I have already requested you that one definition
should be added after part (viii). The amendment is No. 378, and is
about the definition of Kula . It may surprise some hon. Members as to
why I want that this word should be defined. But if you see amendment
No. 387, there I have said that “the parties do not belong to the same
Kula where by custom such marriages are prohibited.” I want this
word to be defined here so that marriages may not take place within
the same Kula.
Dr. Ambedkar : May I just explain the position. I am afraid that
this amendment, although it is a definition, really relates to clause 7—
Essentials for a valid Dharmik marriage—where certain conditions for a
valid Dharmic marriage have been set out. My friend wants substantively
to add one more condition that the parties to a marriage should not
belong to the same Kula. If that amendment is accepted, then and
then alone would a definition of ‘Kula’ be necessary, although it may
be argued that ‘Kula’ is such a well known term that no definition is
necessary. But suppose when we are dealing with clause 7 this matter
is taken up and the House accepts the amendment, then and there we
can intorduce the definition of ‘Kula’. Therefore no definition of ‘Kula’
is necessary now.
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Capt. A. P. Singh : My difficulty is this. Whenever any such thing
comes it is generally said “The word has not been defined”. Therefore,
I wanted that “Kula” should be defined now and let us be clear on this
point. But if it can be done later I have no objection.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : If in clause 7 this is not going to be accepted,
the definition here will become useless. But if on the other hand it is
accepted and a definition is found necessary a consequential amendment
will be made here. I am not closing the door.
Dr. Ambedkar : Or it can be done by an Explanation as to what is
meant by ‘Kula’.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : Clause 3 is not completed, or, as the Hon.
the Law Minister said, we can give it as an Explanation.
Capt. A. P. Singh : Then it may be held over.
Mr. Deputy Speaker : Now we shall take up clause 4.
Clause 4—(Overriding effect of Code ).
Dr. Ambedkar : I beg to move :
For clause 4, substitute :
“4. Overriding effect of Code —Save as otherwise expressly provided
in this Code : —
(a) any text, rule or interpretation of Hindu law or any custom
or usage in force immediately before the commencement of this Code
shall cease to have effect with respect to any of the matters dealt
with in this Code ; and
(b) any other law in force immediately before the commencement
of this Code shall cease to have effect, in so far as it is inconsistent
with any of the provisions contained in this Code.”
The purpose of the amendment is this. As the House will see, we had
originally one single clause with no sub-clauses and the provisions of the
Code relating to custom and interpretation of law and those relating to
other laws passed and in force were put together. It was felt that it was
not the desire of this Bill to abrogate all law but only in so far as it is
inconsistent with the provisions of the Bill. I therefore, felt that the best
course was to split clause 4 into (a) and (b) leaving rule, interpretation
and custom to be covered by (a) and any law in force to be dealt with
by (b) with the limitation that no law shall be abrogated unless it was
inconsistent with this Code. It is not our intention that all laws should
be abrogated by this. That is the purpose of this amendment.