Vol. 15 · pages 626–630
As Free India's First Law Minister and Member of Opposition in Parliament, 1947–1956
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Dr. Ambedkar: I do not know. I am not very much
interested in these matters. But, in view of the difficulties
raised that a large number of polling agents would be reduced
and that if we were to subject them to certain disqualifications
the number available may be very few and that it may create
a lot of difficulty in conducting the elections. I am prepared to
accept the amendment of my hon. friend Pandit Munishwar
Datt Upadhyay.
Mr. Speaker : That is for dropping the clause altogether ?
Dr. Ambedkar: No. the point is this. I am told that our
friends who propose to contest the elections wish to draw upon
the college students who are younger than the prescribed age
and may not be even voters. I have told them privately that
they have already done a great mischief to young college boys
by drawing them into the political arena and that they had
better not repeat the same thing. They said that they must
have this facility. I am prepared to allow that.
Mr. Speaker: It comes to as I was saying, if I mistake
not, dropping and negativing clause 45 altogether. I shall put
the clause first. The question is :
“That clause 45 stand part of the Bill w.
The motion was negatived.
* Clause 44.—(Polling agents )—contd.
Mr. Speaker : Now we come to clause 44.
Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava: I beg to move:
In clause 44, for the words “three days” substitute the words
“one day”.
Sir, now that we have dropped clause 45, the work of
scrutiny does not require 3 days. It is enough if the Returning
Officer gets the names one day previous. Therefore I have
suggested that instead of the words “three days”, the words
“one day” may be put in.
Mr. Speaker: Amendment moved :
In clause 44, for the words “three days” substitutes the
words “one day”.
* P. D., Vol. 12, Part II, 21st May 1951, pp. 9180-84.
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Dr. Ambedkar: Mr. Speaker, prima facie it does appear
that in view of the abolition of clause 45, one day ought to be
sufficient. But frankly speaking. I have not had an opportunity
of discussing this matter with the Election Commissioner
and obtain his views whether this would or would not create
any difficulty. Therefore, I suggest that so far as this point
is concerned, the clause may be permitted to remain as it
is. I can return to it afterwards by suggesting a suitable
amendment if I am convinced that one day really is quite
sufficient and nothing more is necessary. I do not want to
rule it out for the moment.
Mr. Speaker: That means that this clause is kept over ?
Dr, Ambedkar: Yes.
Mr. Speaker: Then we can dispose of the other
amendments.
Shri Ramalingam Chettiar (Madras): Before you leave
this amendment, let me suggest that a polling agent may have
to be appointed at short notice…….. From the point of view
of practical working of the thing, it may be inconvenient to
have three days put in here. This point may be considered
by the Law Minister.
Dr. Ambedkar: I will, certainly.
Now, I will move my amendment I beg to move :
(i) In clause 44, for the words “one agent and two relief agents and
not more to act as his polling agent” substitute the words “such
number of agents and relief agents as may be prescribed to act
as polling agents of such candidate”.
(ii) In clause 44, omit the words “and to such other officer as may
be prescribed”.
Shri Shiv Charan Lal: I could not hear the second portion.
Sir.
Mr. Speaker: I am reading it again. (Amendment of Dr.
Ambedkar as above moved.
So I request the Hon. Law Minister that the words in the
clause may be left as they are and not omitted.
[PANDIT THAKUR DAS BHARGAVA in the Chair ]
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May I draw, the attention of the Law Minister that the
words ‘such other officer as may be prescribed’ should be
allowed to remain so that the Returning Officer may prescribe,
as usual, the presiding officer to take the application for
appointment of the polling agents.
Shri J. R. Kapoor (Uttar Pradesh): May I know what is
the second amendment ?
Dr. Ambedkar: My friend will see that the last words of
clause 44 are as follows:
“that notice of the appointment shall be given in the prescribed
manner to the Returning Officer and to such other officer as
may be prescribed.”
The Rules may prescribe that either the notice of the
appointment of polling agent may be given to the Returning
Officer and to such other officer as may be prescribed. I am
trying to delete by my amendment that sentence—“such other
officer as may be prescribed” be omitted so that the result
will be that the intimation shall be given to the Returning
Officer only.
Mr. Chairman : Now it is the discretion of the Government
to appoint another officer also. This amendment is taking
away the discretion. In practice it is the Presiding Officer to
whom this notice is usually given or the polling officer at the
time. Therefore I would request the Law Minister to consider
if these words are rather enabling.
Dr. Ambedkar : You know the internal history about these
things. I am personally content with the words as they are
in the Section; I am prepared to withdraw my amendment
and leave the words as they are.
Shri J. R. Kapoor: I would suggest that it may be
‘Returning Officer or such other Officer’
Dr. Ambedkar: The Returning Officer ought to know
everything.
Mr. Chairman: Has the Hon. Minister anything to say
to that suggestion?
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Dr. Ambedkar: I am not prepared to accept that.
Shri J. R. Kapoor: If ‘or’ is not substituted, the whole
object of retaining the words ‘such other officer’ goes away. Our
intention is that there should be facility to the candidate to
submit the name of his polling agents to the presiding officer.
I would prefer that these words should be deleted rather than
both should remain if my amendment is not to be accepted.
Mr. Chairman: It does not necessarily mean that notice
is to be given to two officers.
Mr. Chairman: The question of period is yet in suspense.
Till then this cannot be decided.
Shri J. R. Kapoor: The whole clause 44 may be held over.
Dr. Ambedkar : My suggestion is that my first amendment
may be considered and the second be held over.
Pandit Munishwar Datt Upadhyay: Why not hold over
both because we have not definded whether two agents, one
agent and one relief agent, will be appointed for every polling
booth.
Dr. Ambedkar: The first has no integral connection with
the second amendment.
Mr. Chairman: The question is :
In clause 44, for the words “one agent and two relief agents
and no more to act as his polling agent” substitute the words
“such number of agents and relief agents as may be prescribed
to act as polling agents of such candidate”.
The motion was adopted.
Mr. Chairman: The second amendment is held over.
*Clause 46. —(Counting agents)
Shri Shiv Charan Lal: There is an amendment—No. 382
in Consolidated list No. 1 in the name of Pandit Bhargava. I
may be permitted to move it.
*P.D., Vol. 12, Part II, 21st May 1951, pp. 9184-88.
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Mr. Chairman: I would like to know the reaction of the
Hon. Minister.
Dr. Ambedkar: It may be permitted.
Mr. Chairman: Yes, the hon. Member may move it.
Amendment made:
In clause 46, before the word “may” occurring in line 2, insert
the words “or his election agent”.
—[Shri Shiv Charan Lal ]
The motion was adopted.
Clause 46, as amended was added to the Bill.
Clause 47.— (Revocation of appointment of polling agent
etc.)
Dr. Ambedkar: I beg to move.
For clause 47, substitute the following clause:
“47. Revocation of the appointment or death of a polling agent
or counting agent. —(1) Any revocation of the appointment of a
polling agent shall be signed by the candidate or his election
agent and shall operate from the date on which it is lodged with
the Returning Officer and in the event of such revocation or
of the death of a polling agent before the close of the poll, the
candidate or his election agent may appoint in the prescribed
manner another polling agent at any time before the poll is
closed and shall forthwith give notice of such appointment in
the prescribed manner to the Returning Officer.
(2) Any revocation of the appointment of a counting agent
shall be signed by the candidate and shall operate from the
date on which it is lodged with the Returning Officer and in
the event of such revocation or of the death of a counting agent
before the commencement of the counting of votes, the candidate
may appoint in the prescribed manner another counting agent
at any time before the counting of vote is commenced and shall
forthwith give notice of such appointment in the prescribed
manner to the Returning Officer.”
Shri J. R. Kapoor: It is very difficult to follow the
amendment without a copy before us.
Shri Santhanam: As consequential to the previous
amendment after the word “candidate” wherever it occurs the
words “or election agent” should be inserted.
Dr. Ambedkar: I have no objection.