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As Free India's First Law Minister and Member of Opposition in Parliament, 1947–1956

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664 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES Shri Kamath: Do the Rules of Procedure of the House .......... Mr. Deputy Speaker: Is there no rule to regulate the hon. Member not to stand in his seat when the Deputy Speaker is standing ? Shri Kamath : There is a convention that when a Member wishes to be heard, he should be allowed to have his say. Mr. Deputy Speaker: I am afraid that accusation cannot be levelled against me. I am always erring on the other side. I allow him to speak often. Now the amendment is not before the House. This is my ruling. The hon. Member must have some sense of decency and decorum. Shri Kamath : I must protest against the use of the word “Decency”. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Protesting is improper. Shri Kamath: I must protest again. Mr. Deputy Speaker: This kind of unruly conduct in the House cannot be tolerated. An hon. Member moves a motion and another says that he wants to speak on this. Who is to decide ? Shall I ask the hon. Member to take my place here ? There must be somebody to regulate the proceedings. I come to the conclusion that the House is not seized of this problem as the Hon. Mover does not press it. Till I put it to the House, the matter is not before the House at all. In spite of this the hon. Member Mr. Kamath wishes to speak and speak on what ? He wants to speak on a motion which is not before the House. When I say it is not right, he protests. Therefore it is for the House to regulate the conduct of Members. I am only the spokesman-. It is not right that any Member should take the time of the House and go on protesting against it. I have no objection to ignore what has happened. Shri Kamath: I would like to protest strongly .............. Mr. Deputy Speaker : If he protests, then I will ask him to quit the House.

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665PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES Shri Kamath: I protest .............. Mr. Deputy Speaker: For the day the hon. Member will not enter the House. I do not want to turn out any hon. Member but there must be some sense of decency and decorum in this House. He must submit to the ruling of the Chair, submit to the majority view. Ultimately it is the Chair that reflects the majority view. It also has the right to rule what is a point of order. In spite of that the hon. Member goes on stating that he must control the rest of the House. I do not know if the House will put up with that. It is not my intention to castigate any Member. Shri Kamath: Dr. Deshmukh never withdrew the amendment. Mr. Deputy Speaker: He did not press it. I come to the conclusion rightly or wrongly that this motion is not before the House. Is it not final ? Shri Kamath: By that Dr. Deshmukh means that he does not wish to press it to the vote of the House. Dr. Deshmukh: I do not want to go back on anything that has happened but in many cases there has been discussion although the motion has not been formally put and even after two or three speeches, the motion has not been put. There have been precedents like that. Mr. Deputy Speaker: I have been suggesting to hon. Members that if any hon. Member is insistent upon his amendment being put to the House and heard by the House, let him have the courage of moving it and insisting on it being heard by the House. But if he does not want me to put it to the House, he cannot compel the Chair to allow discussion on that. Pandit Thakurdas Bhargava: No amendment which is not asked to be put to the House has a claim to be discussed in the House. Mr. Deputy Speaker: I will now proceed

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666 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES Shri Kamath rose — Shri Sidhva: Order, order. Shri Kamath: You have no business to call me to order. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The House will now proceed to its normal work. Clause 159.—(Requisitioning of premises ) Amendment made: To sub-clause (1) of clause 159, add the following Proviso: “Provided that no vehicle, vessel or animal which is being lawfully used by a candidate or his agent for any purpose connected with the election of such candidate shall be requisitioned under this sub-section until the completion of the poll at such election.” —[Dr. Ambedkar ] Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question is: “That clause 159, as amended, stand part of the Bill.” The motion was adopted. Clause 159, as amended, was added to the Bill. Clauses 160 to 166 were added to the Bill. Dr. Ambedkar: I want clause 167 to be held over. Clauses 168 and 169 may be put to the House, as there are no amendments to them. Clauses 168 and 169 were added to the Bill. Dr. Ambedkar: Sir, I want the House to be adjourned and I do want to say also that it may not be possible for me to be ready tomorrow to take up the Bill again. I therefore suggest that the House might consider the possibility of taking some other Bill tomorrow and I shall be ready thereafter. There is I understand, the Boilers Bill which is a small Bill and can be taken up tomorrow. (Some Hon. Members : Why not today ?) The Member in charge is not ready as he has had no notice.

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667PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES The Deputy Minister for Works, Production and Supply (Shri Buragohain): I have not got the papers here. The Minister of State for Parliamentary Affairs (Shri Satya Narayan Sinha): The House may adjourn for half an hour and in the mean time he can go and get the papers. The Minister of State for Transport and Railways (Shri Santhanam): Sir, I understand that the Hon. Minister of States, Mr. Gopalaswami Ayyangar, will be ready to take up his Bill relating to Part C States but he has had no notice. Perhaps if the House adjourns for half an hour he might be in a position to take up the Bill. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The House may be adjourned till 11 o’clock and in the mean time hon. Members may go through the Bill and be ready with their amendments. Dr. Ambedkar: I have also to look into the odds and ends with regard to the amendments which I have accepted on the spur of the moment. I have to see to what extent they require modification and that is why I may not be ready tomorrow. Shri Bharati (Madras): May I suggest that the discussion on clause 7 may go on but the decision could be postponed for sometime later ? ( Several Hon. Members : No, no.) In any case the discussion on it is bound to go on and only the decision may be held over. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The hon. Member is aware that if they come to an agreement with respect to clause 7 and other clauses relating to disqualifications much of the discussion may be avoided. Otherwise they will be only beating the air. So I adjourn the House till 11 o’clock when the House will take up the next motion on the agenda, namely the Government of Part C States Bill. The House then adjourned till Eleven of the Clock.

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668 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE (NO. 2) BILL *Shri Ghule : I beg to move : In the amendment proposed by Dr. Ambedkar, printed as No. 2 in Supplementary List No. 7 of amendments, in sub-clause (2) of the proposed new clause 47— (a) for the word “commencement” occuring in line 5 substitute the word “end” and (b) before the words “counting of votes” occurring in line 7, insert the words “end of the” My amendment is very simple. The provision here should be that before the counting is finished or before the close of the counting he should be able to revoke his name. The Minister of law (Dr. Ambedkar): I am not accepting the amendment. Shri Kamath: May I suggest a minor alteration in the marginal heading ? The draftsman may bear in mind that the construction of the marginal heading “Revocation of the appointment or death of a polling agent” is not to my mind happy. It might mean that the word death also is qualified by the word ‘revocation’. If ‘death’ comes first, it will be all right. Dr. Ambedkar: That will be borne in mind. Shri Ghule: I do not press my amendment. Mr. Deputy Speaker: I hope the House is agreeable to the amendment of the marginal heading. Motion was adopted. *Clause 51.—(Death of candidate before poll ) Amendment made: To clause 51, add the following further proviso: ‘Provided further that no person who has under sub-section (1) of section 35 given a notice of withdrawal of his candidature before the countermanding of the poll shall be ineligible for being nominated as a candidate for the election after such countermanding.” —[Dr. Ambedkar ] *P. D., Vol. 12, 28th May 1951, pp. 9480-81. ** P.D., Vol. 12, Part II, 23rd May 1951, pp. 9482-95.