Vol. 10 · pages 311–315
As Member of the Governor-General's Executive Council, 1942–46
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State’s Liabilities
“Among these social and economic problems, this Conference
will be concerned with the most important of them, namely,
the problems effecting the welfare of labour and the relations
of Capital to Labour. In order that the Conference may know
what work lies before it, I think it would be desirable if I use
this occasion to enter upon what might be called ‘stock-taking’,
so that all of us may have a correct estimate of what has been
done and what remains to be done in the field which is ours.
“For the purposes of this stock-taking, I would like to begin with
our liabilities first. Our liabilities are derived from two different
quarters. Firstly, they are derived from the recommendations
of the Royal Commission on Labour which reported in the year
1930. The second source of our liabilities is the Conventions of
the International Labour Organisation of which India has been
made a member from the very beginning.
“ The Royal Commission on Labour made 357 recommendations—
a formidable total which serves to show how far behind India was
in 1929 as compared with other countries in matters of labour
legislation. Of these 357 recommendations 133 (in whole or in
part) involved legislation. Of these 133, no less than 126 were
accepted by the Government. Only seven were rejected out of 126
which were accepted, 106 have generally been given effect to.
Only 20 arc still outstanding. Of these 20, 10 relate to legislation
for workshops for which discretionary powers already exist with
the Provincial Governments under section 5 of the Factories Act.
Really speaking, there are only 10 recommendations which are
outstanding. Our liability on this account is therefore very small.
I.L.O. Conventions
“Turning to the second source of our liabilities, it will be noticed
that the I.L.O. has between the years 1919 and 1943 passed
altogether 63 Conventions on various matters effecting labour.
Of these, India has ratified only 14. India has yet to ratify 49
Conventions.
“You will notice how the balance-sheet stands. Our Royal
Commission account is better than our I.L.O. account. That is of
course likely as the Royal Commission recommendations have specific
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relations to the conditions of India while the I.L.O. Conventions
are general in character.
“The fact, however, remains that there is very little
outstanding liability on account of the Commission and the
magnitude of our liability on account of the Convention is great.
Among the Conventions not ratified, there are some which are
very important and it behoves us to examine these most carefully
and raise our labour standards, in so far as national conditions
allow, to standards laid down internationally
“This brief survey will, I hope, enable you to see what is
outstanding in the matter of legislation. I need hardly say that
this debt we shall have to discharge. I am sure you will agree
with me when I say that we do not wish to escape it. Permit
me to say that we cannot escape it. World public opinion will
not allow us to escape it.
“If I have made a point of our honouring our liability it
is because one hears in this country many misgivings being
expressed about the necessity and urgency of labour legislation.
There is always somebody to ask us to copy the British example.
It is said that the British people have waited for a century, before
they had their present Labour Code. There arc others who urge
that it would be unfair to put the cost of labour legislation on
Indian Industries, which are at present in an infant stage, and
point to the example of Russia where the working class was
forced to accept very low standards in order to enable industries
to grow. One also hears it said that the administrative machinery
necessary for enforcing labour legislation is not in existence in
India and that, therefore, it is useless to enact laws which must
remain a dead letter. There is also the plea, commonly raised,
that India is a poor country and that it cannot afford the luxury
of high standards of labour.
Labour Legislation
“I am not sure that these arguments will satisfy world opinion.
Far from accepting them as good and valid reasons for holding
back labour legislation of which we arc in arrears, labour is sure
to regard them as so many excuses.
“Labour may well say that the fact that the British took 100 years to
have a proper code of labour legislation is no argument that we should
also in India take 100 years. History is not to be studied merely with
a view to know how well to imitate the mistakes of other countries.
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We study history with a view to know the errors people have
made and how they could be avoided. History is not always an
example. More often it is a warning.
“Labour is bound to say that the example of Russia is entirely
out of place in a discussion about labour standards in a country
in which industry is run as a private enterprize working in
pursuit of private and personal gain. In Russia, industry is a
State enterprise and the profits of industry go to fill the Treasury
of the State and not to swell the private fortunes of individuals.
Where the profits of industry belong to the State, the subjects
of the State may well be asked to undergo, during an interim
period, reduction in wages and other standards of life in order
that the State industries may be stabilised. No worker would
mind such a sacrifice knowing that, in the end, the industry
would belong to the State and that he would be able to share
in the prosperity of the State. How can the workers be asked
to agree to reduce standards of life in an economy in which the
profits which are to result from such reduced standards are
to go to private individuals. I am sure you will agree that an
agrument on these lines has great force.
Funds For Labour Welfare
“The plea that we have no administrative machinery to give
proper effect to labour laws cannot be admitted to be a strong
plea. It is liable to be attacked by labour from many points and
you will find it vulnerable at every point. The State maintains a
large body of police force to maintain law and orders; the State
maintains a body of Revenue Officers to collect taxes. Labour
may well say, why should not the State maintain a force to see
that labour laws arc given effect to ? Is the duty of the State
to be confined merely to collecting taxes and punishing persons
who disobey its laws ? Does not the duty of the State extend to
the maintenance of terms and conditions of employment, which
arc in consonance with civilised life ? If that is the duty of the
State, is it not obligatory on the State to create and sustain
such machinery ? The lack of machinery is too weak a plank to
stand on.
“The argument about the capacity to bear the burden
of the cost involved in labour legislation is an argument
of very serious import, and labour will have to take note
of it. At the same time, the question is about the faith
behind the argument. Is it a bona fide argument ? or
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it is merely a cloak for avoiding liability ? Labour may well
say that this argument about cost loses much of its force when
one thinks of the money spent on war. All of us know what a
colossal amount of money has been raised for the war and how
the monied classes have borne the crushing weight of high and
heavy taxations for carrying on the war.
“Labour may well ask statesmen to say how many houseless
persons could have been decently housed, how many naked
persons could have been properly clothed, how many hungry
men and women could have been given full nourishment, how
many uneducated persons could have been educated, how many
sick persons could have been restored to health, if the money
spent on war had been spent on public welfare ? Labour may ask
monied classes a very pertinent question saying, if you do not
mind paying taxes to meet expediture on war, why do you object
to raising funds when their purpose is to raise labour standards ?
I am sure these arc not very easy questions to answer.
“I have given you an estimate of the labour legislation which
is outstanding. I have shown why we cannot escape it. That being
so, I do not think it necessary to make any apology for the large
Agenda that has been placed before you. The Agenda includes
eight items. Some of them are very important, particularly item
II, which deals with reduction of working hours, item III which
deals with minimum wage legislation and item VIII which deals
with the Recognition of Trade Unions.
Anti-Slump Measures
“You can well imagine why I have singled out these items for
particular emphasis. The peace we are glad to have will be
bringing on its plethora of problems. The most serious of these
will be the dreadful problem of unemployment. We must do
our best and do it immediately to mitigate it and to prevent
it from lowering labour standards. I believe three things are
necessary to case the situation. Firstly, to reduce hours of
employment so as to provide employment for many. Secondly,
to provide machinery for fixing minimum wages. The absence
of such machinery combined with unemployment is bound to
cause labour standards to slump, which ought to be prevented.
Thirdly, to provide the employers and workers with a resolve to
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collective bargaining and learn to work together in the solution
of other common problems. Nothing in my judgment can bring
this about more effectively than sound and responsible Trade
Unions.
“I do not propose to assert that the Labour Department
does not linger on. I must mention I find one great handicap
in pursuing our goal. It arises from the provisions of the I.L.O.
with regard to Conventions. I said that our liability arising out
of non-ratification of the Conventions is indeed very great. I must
at the same time point out that this is due not so much to the
unwillingness of the Government to recognise the essential good
underlying the Conventions, it is due largely to the rule which
requires that a convention must be adopted without change or
modification. It must be adopted as a whole, or not all all. I am
sure it is this provision, forcing on us a policy of ‘all or none’
is not very helpful. It does not permit us to realise our goal
by progressive stages which is the only one by which vast and
backward countries like India can hope to advance.
Stage By Stage Progress
“I want to press for a modification of this rule, as being very
necessary for Asiatic countries which have a long and a different
journey to cover. It should not be impossible to get a change made
in the existing provisions. It should be possible for the I.L.O. to
draft a Convention so as to provide for stages. It should also be
possible for the I.L.O. to lay down that the convention should
be carried out stage by stage, coupled with the provision that
the whole list of Conventions should be carried within a given
period. I am sure you will agree with me that a change which
permits progressive realisation of international conventions is to
be preferred to a rule which makes them so many dead letters.
“There is one other matter to which I must make some
reference lest you should misunderstand. You remember, the
Conference last year appointed a Committee to consider some of
the proposals I had made for changing the Constitution of the
Conference. You might like to know what action Government
propose to take on the report of the Committee.
“As recommended by the Committee, Government do not at present
propose to make any changes in the Constitution of the Conference.