Vol. 15 · pages 816–820

797PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question is: That the following modifications be made in the Delimitation of Council Constituencies (Bihar) Order, 1951 laid on the Table on the 20th September 1951, namely:— 1. That in the Table, for the entry “ Bihar (Graduates)” in column 1 and all the entries occurring against it in columns 2 and 3 the following be substituted, namely:— 1 23 Patna Division (Graduates) Patna Division 2 Tirhut Division (Graduation) Tirhut Division 2 Bhagalpur Division (Graduates) Bhagalpur Division 1 Chota Nagpur Division (Graduates) Chota Nagpur Division 1 2. That in the Table, under the heading “Teachers’ Constituencies” for all the entries occurring in columns 1, 2 and 3, the following be substituted, namely:— 1 23 Patna Division (Teachers) Patna Division 1 Tirhut Division (Teachers) Tirhut Division 1 Bhagalpur Division (Teachers) Bhagalpur Division 2 Chota Nagpur Division (Teachers) Chota Nagpur Division 2 The motion was adopted. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The President’s Order relating to the Teacher’s Constituency relating to Bihar stands modified to this extent. Also, the President’s Order relating to the Teachers’ Constituency relating to Bihar stands modified to this extent. Have all the other hon. Members who have moved amendments to this Order the leave of the House to withdraw them ? The amendments were, by leave, withdrawn. BOMBAY ORDER Dr. Ambedkar: With regard to the Bombay Order (Council) I accept Amendment No. 1 in List No. 1 parts 1 and 2 by Shri Deogirikar and others, as modified by amendment No. 3 in List No. 3 by Shri Deogirikar.

798 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES I may explain the substance of these amendments which is the same as the substance of the amendments which we have accepted in respect of the Bihar Order. The original Order issued by the President distributing the graduates seats between Bombay, Ahmedabad and Poona in certain proportion gave two seats to Bombay and one seat combined to Ahmedabad and Poona. It was the desire of Shri Deogirikar and others who has tabled the amendment to modify this distribution. They wanted first a rotation between Ahmedabad and Poona or one seat, going to each by turn. I do not think this rotation system is good, however, I accepted that it may be desirable to treat all the towns like Bombay, Poona and Ahmedabad on an equal footing although it was not possible to assess the total strength of all the graduates residing in those particular towns. Consequently I accepted the amendment so as to distribute the seats between Bombay, Poona and Ahmedabad equally, one each; and I have done the same thing with regard to the Teachers’ Constituency also. The motion was adopted. *Mr. Deputy Speaker: The President’s order relating to the Bombay Teachers’ Constituency stands modified to the extent of the amendment that has been accepted by the House. So also the President’s order relating to the Bombay Graduates’ Constituency stands modified to the extent of the amendment that has been a accepted by the House. Dr. Ambedkar: I request leave of the house to withdraw parts (1) to (6) of my amendment No. 2 in List No. 2 Bombay order (Council) in consequence of the acceptance of the amendment of Shri Deogirikar and others. Parts (1) to (6) of the amendment were, by leave, withdrawn. * P. D., Vol. 16, Part II, 11th October 1951, pp. 4621-22.

799PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES *Mr. Deputy Speaker: The President’s order stands modified in the extent of this amendment, in addition to the modification effected by the amendment of Shri Deogirikar. The question is : That the following modifications ho made in Delimitation of Council Constituencies (Madras) Order, 1951, laid on the Table on the 20th September 1951, namely : — (1) That at page 1, in the Table, under the heading “Graduates’ Constituencies” against the entry “Madras South (Graduates)” in column 1, for the words “Madras City, and the Chingleput” occurring in column 2, the words “Madras, Chingleput” be substituted. (2) That at page 2, in the Table, under the heading “Teachers’ Constituencies” against the entry “Madras South (Teachers)” in column 1, for the words “Madras City., and the Chingleput” occurring in column 2, the words “Madras, Chingleput” be substituted. The motion was adopted. Dr. Ambedkar: Sir, I accept amendment No. 2 on List No. 2 (Madras Council Order) moved by Shri Kesava Rao. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question is : That the following modifications be made in the Delimitation of Council Constituencies (Madras) Order, 1951 laid on the Table on the 20th September 1951, namely:— That in the Table, in column 2, after the words “Malabar and South Kanara Districts” wherever they occur, the following be added, namely:— “and the West Cost Islands of Minicoy, Laccadives and Amindivis”. The motion was adopted, Mr. Deputy Speaker: The president’s order relating to the Delimitation of Council Constituencies (Madras) stands modified to the extent of the two amendments accepted by the House. UTTAR PRADESH ORDER **Dr. Ambedkar: I am accepting amendment No. 1, Parts (1) and (2), second alternatives, by Babu Gopinath Singh. It provides for contiguity and hence I am accepting it. *P. D., Vol. 16, Part II, 11th October 1951, p. 4624. ** Ibid., pp. 4425-26.

800 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question is: That the following modifications be made in the Delimitation of Council Constituencies (Uttar Pradesh) Order, 1951, laid on the Table on the 20th September 1951, namely:— (1) (i) That in the Table, under the heading “Graduates’ Constituencies”, against the entry “Uttar Pradesh West (Graduates)” in column 1, for all the words occurring in column 2, the words “Meerut, Agra, Jhansi, Allahabad and Faizabad Divisions” be substituted. (ii) That in the Table under the heading “Graduates’ Constituencies”, against the entry “Uttar Pradesh East (Graduates)” in column 1, for all the words occurring in column 2, the words “Rohilkhand, Kumaun, Lucknow, Banaras and Gorakpur Division” be substituted. (2) (i) That in the Table, under the heading “ Teachers’ Constituencies”, against the entry “Uttar Pradesh West (Teachers’)” in column 1, for all the words occurring in column 2, the words “Meerut, Agra, Jhansi, Allahabad and Faizabad Divisions” be substituted. (ii) That in the Table under the heading “Teachers’ Constituencies”, against the entry “Uttar Pradesh East (Teachers)” in column 1, for all the words occurring in column 2, the words “Rohilkhand, Kumaun, Lucknow, Banaras and Gorakpur Divisions” be substituted. The motion was adopted. Dr. Ambedkar: I am prepared to accept amendment No. 2 in list No. 2 moved by Dr. C. D. Pande to the Delimitation of Council Constituencies (Uttar Pradesh) Order, 1951. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question is: That the following modifications be made in the Delimitation of Council Constituencies (Uttar Pradesh) Order, 1951, laid on the Table on the 20th September, 1951, namely:— (1) That in the Table, under the heading “Local Authorities’ Constituencies” against the entry “Uttar Pradesh North-East (Local Authorities)” in column 1 for the word “Shahjahanpur” occurring in column 2, the word “Budaun” be substituted. (2) That in the Table, under the heading “Local Authorities’ Constituencies” t against the entry “Uttar Pradesh Central (Local Authority)” in column 1, for the word “Budaun” occurring in column 2, the word “Shahjahanpur” be substituted, The motion was adopted. The other amendments to the order were, by leave, withdrawn. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The President’s Order relating to the Delimitation of Council Constituencies (Uttar Pradesh)

801PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES stands amended by the amendments adopted by the House, which stood in the names of Babu Gopinath Singh and Dr. C. D. Pande. WEST BENGAL ORDER Dr. Ambedkar: I accept amendment No. 2 in List No. 2, standing in the names of Messrs. Samanta and Abdus Sattar, to the Delimitation of Council Constituencies (West Bengal) Order, 1951. Shri Chattopadhyay (West Bangal): In view of the agreement reached I beg leave of the House to withdraw my amendment. But before you put the motion to the House I have a doubt to be clarified which relates to the case of nominated members of local authorities. It has never been the desire of this Parliament or the Constituent Assembly that nominated members should have any right to vote in the matter of elections to Councils. We have provided in the Constitution that nominated members of the Upper Houses in the Centre as well as States should have no right to vote for the election of the President in this Constituency under discussion there are as many as two municipalities with a total strength of 24 members, who are all nominated and if they get the right of vote in the matter of election to the Council I think the Council in the State of Bengal will become something like a farce because the members of the Council elected by nominated members will stand on a par with the representatives sent by elected members. It was never the desire of Parliament nor the Constituent Assembly that nominated members of local bodies should have any right to vote in the matter of election of the President or in the matter of election to the Councils. It is due to oversight that a mistake of so grave character has crept in and I would like to know whether anything could be done to remedy the mistake. Dr. Ambedkar: I see the significance of the point raised by my hon. friend but the difficulty is a constitutional difficulty. The Constitution does not make any distinction between nominated members and elected members. Although