Vol. 2 · pages 376–380
In the Bombay Legislature, with the Simon Commission and at the Round Table Conferences
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68. From these suggestions it will be seen that I am for the abolition of
all class electorates, such as those for (1) Inamdars and Sardars, (2) Trade
and Commerce, whether Indian or European, (3) Indian Christians, and
(4) Indusry ; and merge them in the general electorates. There is nothing to
prevent them from having their voice heard in the Councils by the ordinary
channel. Secondly, although I am for securing the special representation of
certain classes, I am against their representation through separate electorates.
Territorial electorates and separate electorates are the two extremes which
must be avoided in any scheme of representation that may be devised for the
introduction of a democratic form of government in this most undemocratic
country. The golden mean is the system of joint electorates with reserved
seats. Less than that would be insufficient, more than that would defeat the
ends of good government. For obvious reasons I make an exception in the
case of the European community. They may be allowed to have their special
electorates. But they shall be general electorates and not class electorates
CHAPTER 3
DISTRIBUTION OF SEATS
I. Distribution of seats among the minorities
69. The quota of seats assigned by my colleagues to the different minorities
is given below in the tabular form:
No. of seats out of 140
Minority General plus Special
I. Europeans ... ... 2 5
II. Anglo-Indians .., ... 2 Nil
II. Indian Christians ... 1 Nil
IV. Depressed Classes ... 10 Nil
V. Mohamedans ... ... 43 2
70. From this table it will be seen that in distributing the seats among
the different minorities, my colleagues have not acted upon any uniform
principle. Nor does it appear that they have striven to do justice to the
minorities concerned. This is clear if we compare the treatment given by
my colleagues to the Mohamedans with the treatment they have given to
the Depressed Classes. Mohamedans form 19 per cent, of the population
of the Presidency. My colleagues have proposed to give them over 31 per
cent, of the total representation provided for the Legislative Council. The
Depressed Classes on the other hand who form according to the most
conservative estimate 8 per cent, of the total population of the Presidency
are allowed only 7 per cent, of the total seats in the Council. The reasons
for this discrimination are difficult to comprehend. Of the two minorities the
Mohamedan minority is undoubtedly stronger in numbers, in wealth and
in education. Besides being weak in numbers, wealth and education, the
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Depressed Classes are burdened with disabilities from which the Mohamedans
are absolutely free. The Depressed Classes cannot take water from public
watering places even if they are maintained out of public funds ; the
Mohamedans can. The Depressed Classes, by virtue of their untouchability,
cannot enter the Police, the Army and the Navy, although the Government
of India Act lays down that no individual shall be denied his right to any
public office by reason of his caste, creed or colour. The Mohamedans have
not only an open door in the matter of public service, but that in certain
departments they have secured the largest share. The Depressed Classes
are not admitted in Public schools even though they are maintained out of
public money; there is no such bar against the Mohamedans. The touch of
a Depressed Class man causes pollution; the touch of a Mohamedan does
not; that trade and industry are open to a Mohamedan while they are closed
to a man from the Depressed Classes. The Mohamedan does not bear the
stigma of inferiority as does a man from the Depressed Classes with the
result that the Mohamedan is free to dress as he likes, to live as he likes
and to do what he likes. This freedom the Depressed Class man is denied.
A Depressed Class man may not wear clothes better than the villagers
even though he may have the economic competence to pay for its cost. He
must live in a hut. A Depressed Class man may not make much display
of wealth and splendour even on ceremonial occasions and may certainly
not take the bridegroom on a horse in procession through the main streets.
Any act contrary to the customary code or beyond his status is bound to
be visited by the wrath of the whole body of villagers amongst whom he
happens to live. The Depressed Class man is far often subject to the tyranny
of the majority than the Mohamedan is. The reason is that the Mohamedan
who has all the elementary rights of a human being accorded to him, has
no cause for quarrel against the majority, except when a religious issue
comes to the front. But the position of the Depressed Class man is totally
different. His life which is one incessant struggle for the acquisition of the
rights of a human being, is a constant challenge to the majority which denies
him these rights. The result is that he is constantly in antagonism with
the majority. This is not all. If on any occasion the Mohamedan is visited
by the tyranny of the majority, he has on his sides the long arm of the
Police and the Magistracy. But when the Depressed Class man is a victim
of the tyranny of the majority, the arm of the Police or of the Magistracy
seldom comes to his rescue. On the contrary it works in league with the
majority to his detriment, for the simple reason that the Mohamedan
can count many of their kith and kin in the Police and the Magistracy
of the Province ; while the Depressed Classes have no one from them in
these departments. And be it noted that the Depressed Classes have not
merely to bear the brunt of the orthodox Hindu force. It has also to count
against the Mohamedans. It is ordinarily supposed that the Mohamedan
is free from social prejudices of the Hindus against the Depressed Classes.
Nothing can be a greater error than this. Leaving aside the urban areas,
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the Mohamedan in the rural parts is as much affected by the poison as
the Hindu. The fracas that took place at Harkul, a village in the Mangaon
Taluka of the Kolaba District, is an instance in point. In this district the
Depressed Classes launched a campaign of social elevation and resolved to
give up certain unclean practices which have marked them out as persons
of inferior status. The Hindus of the district, who had formerly preached
to these people the abandonment of these unclean practices as a necessary
condition of their uplift, turned upon these poor people and tyrannised
them by bringing to bear upon them a social and economic boycott. But
it was never expected that the Mohamedans of the district would follow
their Hindu neighbours. On the contrary it was the hope of the Depressed
Classes that in their struggle with the touchable Hindus the Mohamedans
would act as their friends. But these hopes of theirs were dashed to pieces.
For, it was soon found that the Mohamedans, although they did not observe
untouchability, were as much infected as the Hindus with the noxious belief
that the Depressed Classes were born to an inferior social status and that
their attempt to raise themselves above it by giving up their unclean habits
was an affront and an insult which required to be put down. As a result
many were the fights that took place between the Mohamedans and the
Depressed Classes of the district, in one of which, at Harkul, a Depressed
Class man actually lost his life.
71. It is therefore clear that the problem of the Depressed Classes is far
greater than the problem of the Mohamedans. The Mohamedans may be
backward in the race, although they are so forward that in education at
least they are second only to the advanced Hindus. But they are certainly
not handicapped, so that with effort and encouragement they can hope to
rise. The Depressed Classes, on the other hand, are not merely backward,
they are also handicapped, so that no effort or encouragement will enable
them to rise unless the handicap is first removed. That being the difference
between the two, whatever degree of political power that may be necessary
for the Mohamedans to change their backward state, the Depressed Classes
will require twice as much if not more to do so. Yet my colleagues have
reversed the proportion of their representation. The Mohamedans, who are
19 per cant, and who form a strong minority, are given 31 per cent, of seats
in the Council, while the Depressed Classes, who form 8 per cent, of the
population on the most conservative estimates, are given only 7 per cent.
of the seats in the Council which, in fact, is 1 per cent. less than their
population ratio.
72. There is a view that the problem of the Depressed Classes is a social
problem and that its solution must be sought for in the social field. I am
surprised that this view prevails even in high quarters. I am afraid that
those who hold this view forget that every problem in human society is a
social problem. The drink problem, the problem of wages, of hours of work,
of housing, of unemployment insurance are all social problems. In the
same sense the problem of untouchability is also a social problem. But the
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question is not whether the problem is a social problem. The question is
whether the use of political power can solve that problem. To that question
my answer is emphatically in the affirmative. True enough that the State in
India will not be able to compel touchables and untouchables to be members
of one family whether they liked it or not. Nor will the State be able to
make them love by an Act of the Legislature or embrace by order in Council
of the Executive. But short of that the State can remove all obstacles which
make untouchables remain in their degraded condition. If this view is correct,
then no community has a greater need for adequate political representation
than the depressed classes.
73. My colleagues nowhere explain why the Mohamedan minority should
get 12 per cent, more than its population ratio and why the Depressed
Classes should not get even the share that is due to them on the basis of
their population. It is noteworthy that the Mohamedan witnesses who pleaded
for the excess of their representation did not claim it on the ground, as one
might have expected, that it was necessary to ensure their progress or their
well-being. Their only ground was that the Mohamedans were the descendants
of a ruling class and that they required this excessive representation because
without it, they feared that the community would suffer in importance and
influence. From this it will be seen that the Mohamedan claim for such
excessive representation proceeds not on the basis of adequacy but on the
basis of supremacy. I am strongly of opinion that in any democratic form of
government all communities must be treated as of equal political importance
and that there should be no room left for any one community to claim that
it is uber alles . When anyone said that his community was important and
should receive fair and adequate representation the claim was entitled to the
sympathetic consideration of all. But when any one urged that his community
was specially important and should therefore receive representation in excess
of its fair share, the undoubted and irresistible implication was that the other
communities were comparatively inferior and should receive less than their
fair share. That is a position to which naturally the other communities will
not assent. The earlier therefore the Mohamedan community is disabused of
this extravagant notion, the better it will be for the future of the community.
For there is no benefit in an advantage which not being willingly conceded
by the other communities has perpetually to be fought for. On the contrary
it may result in positive harm to the Mohamedan community by sowing the
seeds of estrangement and perhaps of positive antipathy between it and the
other communities concerned.
74. The Mohamedan’s is not the only case of a ruling class which has
suffered a fall in its position. The French in Canada and the Dutch in
South Africa are other instances where a class fell from its position of a
ruling class to that of a subject class. But neither the French in Canada nor
the Dutch in South Africa put forth claims to extravagant representation
in order to be able to maintain their former position as rulers. Nor
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is such a consideration shown to the Mohamedan minorities in other parts
of the world. The Mohamedan minorities in Albania, Roumania, Greece,
Bulgaria are the remnants of what was once a ruling race. Yet in none
of these countries have they claimed a royal share of representation. The
Mohamedan claim for representation according to the influence is not only
not heard of but is quite foreign to the system of representative government.
The landowners, the capitalists, and the priests have an immense influence
in every society, but no one has ever conceded that these classes should be
given an immense share of representation. There is therefore no reason why
the Mohamedan claim should be recognised when claims of similar nature
have been dismissed elsewhere.
75. Whatever may have been their position before the advent of British rule
in India—and there again it must not be forgotten, that if the Mohamedans
have ruled India for five centuries, the Hindus have ruled for countless
centuries before them and even after them — the safest course is to proceed
on the basis that as a result of the British conquest all communities stand
on a common level and pay no heed to their political past. Such an attitude
far from being unjust will be perfectly in keeping with the sentiments
expressed by the Law Commissioners who drafted the Indian Penal Code
in their address to the Secretary of State. Therein they observed :
“Your Lordship in Council will see that we have not proposed to except from
the operation of this Code any of the ancient sovereign houses of India residing
within the Company’s territories. Whether any such exception ought to be made
is a question which, without a more accurate knowledge than we possess of
existing treaties, of the sense in which those treaties have been understood, of
the history of negotiations, of the temper and of the power of particular families,
and of the feeling of the body of the people towards those families, we could
not venture to decide. We will only beg permission most respectfully to observe
that every such exception is an evil; that it is an evil that any man should be
above the law ; that it is still greater evil that the public should be taught to
regard as a high and enviable distinction the privilege of being above the law ;
that the longer such privileges are suffered to last, the more difficult it is to
take them away; that there can scarcely ever be a fairer opportunity of taking
them away than at the time when the Government promulgates a new Code
binding alike on persons of different races and religion; and that we greatly
doubt whether any consideration except that of public faith solemnly pledged,
deserves to be weighed against the advantages of equal justice.”
76. These are words of great wisdom and I am sure that words of greater
wisdom have not been uttered for the guidance of those in charge of the
public affairs of India. Nor is their wisdom restricted to the occasion on which
or the purpose in relation to which they were uttered. I have no doubt that
they apply to the present occasion with equal if not greater force. Indeed
using the language of the Law Commissioners, I am led to say that it is an
evil that the constitutional law of the country should recognise that any one