Vol. 2 · pages 396–400
In the Bombay Legislature, with the Simon Commission and at the Round Table Conferences
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other class must lose. If each class remains with no more political power
than before then there will have been no real reform. It is idle to suppose
that either the lower classes or for the matter of that any class interested in
reform will be satisfied with a measure, either because it is called political
reform or because while proposing to change everything it contrives to keep
things where they are. It would be much better to say in plain terms that
the scheme of devolution of political power should be so conditioned that the
flow of power shall stop with the classes and shall not reach the masses. I
must however make it plain that I cannot be a party to any such scheme
of reforms.
99. Granting that a second chamber is a necessity there is one supreme
difficulty in the way of its formation. The authors of the Montagu-Chelmsford
Report had in 1917 carefully considered the question of establishing second
chambers in the Provinces. But taking all things into consideration they
decided against the proposal. They said, “We see very serious practical
objections to the idea. In many provinces it would be impossible to secure a
sufficient number of suitable members for two Houses. We apprehend also
that a second chamber representing mainly lended and monied interests
might prove too effective a barrier against legislation, which affected such
interests. Again, the presence of large landed proprietors in the second
chamber might have the unfortunate result of discouraging other members
of the same class from seeking the votes of the electorates. We think that
the delay involved in passing legislation through two Houses would make
the system far too cumbrous to contemplate for the business of Provincial
Legislature. We have decided for the present therefore against bicameral
institution for the Provinces.” The objections raised to second chambers in
1917 hold good even today. I am quite certain that this Presidency has not
at its command a sufficient number of eminent men to run both the Houses.
A second chamber will sap the life of the first or the first will sap the
life of the second. There is not enough material to build both. Under such
circumstances it is better to have a single efficient chamber than to have
two effective ones. For these reasons I oppose the institution of a second
chamber in the Presidency.
CHAPTER 6
POWERS OF THE LEGISLATURE
100. Power of appointing and removing the President. — Prior to the
reforms of 1919 the Governor who was the chief of the executive of the
Province was the President of the Provincial Legislature. By the changes
introduced in 1919 the Provincial Legislature obtained the right of electing
one of its members as its President and to remove him from office. This
was a valuable privilege. The exercise of this privilege was, however, made
subject to certain restrictions inasmuch as the appointment of the President
was made subject to the approval and his removal subject to the concurrence
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of the Governor. These limitations are the remnants of the time when the
Executive was supreme over the Legislature. They are not to be found in the
constitution of the dominions. They are incompatible with the independence
of the Legislature and must be removed. Granting that the President must
be made independent of the executive, question is, must he also be made
independent of the judiciary ? Section 110 of the Government of India Act
defines the officers and the matters in respect of which they are exempt
from the jurisdiction of the High Courts. The President of the Legislative
Council is not included among the officers who enjoy this immunity. That
being the case, the President of the Legislature is subject to the jurisdiction
in respect of what he does as a President. That means that his conduct as
a President is liable to be questioned in a Court of Law. It is feared that
this opens a vast field to vexatious litigation involving great delay in the
conduct of the business of the Legislature. This is sought to be remedied
by granting exemption to the President from the jurisdiction of the Courts.
I am opposed to this change and prefer to leave things as they are.
101. Power of defining Privileges .—No one will question the expediency of
allowing a Legislature every power reasonably necessary to the existence of
such a body, and the proper exercise of the functions which it is intended to
execute. The position of the Provincial Legislatures under the existing law
is very unsatisfactory. Beyond giving certain immunities to the members of
the Legislature and barring the meagre powers given to the President by
rule 17 of the Legislative Council Rules for expelling a disorderly member,
the law gives no authority to the Legislature to vindicate itself against a
wrong calculated to obstruct its work or lower its dignity. Such authority can
no longer be withheld from the Legislature. I therefore recommend that the
Provincial Legislatures like the Dominion Legislatures should be given the
power within prescribed limits to define by law the powers and privileges
which it thinks are necessary in its own interest.
102. Power of regulating Procedure. —The conduct of business in the
Bombay Legislative Council is governed by Rules framed under Section
72D (6) of the Government of India Act supplemented by Standing Orders
framed under Section 72D ( 7) of the same. In the framing of this code of
procedure the Provincial Legislature has had no hand. The standing orders
were made by the Governor-General in Council, though the Legislature
had had the liberty to suggest amendments to them. But the Rules are
framed under the provisions of Section 129A by the Governor-General in
Council which expressly prohibits the Provincial Legislature from altering
or repealing them. I am of opinion that the Provincial Legislature should
have the power of regulating its own. procedure. The difficulty in giving
such freedom to the Provincial Legislatures seems to arise from the fact that
some of the Rules embody provisions which in other countries form parts of
their constitutional law ; so that the power to amend rules virtually become
power to alter the constitution. But this difficulty can be easily avoided if
an attempt was made to enact such rules as section of the Government of
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India Act. If this is done, the recommendation I have made can be easily
given effect to and the Provincial Legislatures brought on a par with the
Dominion Legislatures of Australia, South Africa and Canada.
103. Power of Legislation .—Section 80C of the Government of India Act
provides that it shall not be lawful for any member of any local Legislature
to introduce, without the previous sanction of the Governor, Lieutenant
Governor or Chief Commissioner, any measure affecting the public revenue
of a province, or imposing any charge on those revenues. This section is a
serious limitation upon the powers of the Legislature. It is a relic of the
days when the people had no voice in the administration of the affairs of
the country. The retention of these powers will ill-accord with a Legislature
supreme over the executive. This section must therefore be deleted. The
Governor will still have the power of vetoing any legislation that will be
passed by the Council. That power must suffice. More than that will not
be consistent with the position he will have to occupy under a system of
complete ministerial responsibility.
104. Power of Appropriation.—The Legislative Council under Section 72D
may assent or refuse its assent to a demand or reduce the amount referred
to therein either by a reduction of the whole grant or by the omission or
reduction of any of the items of expenditure of which the grant is composed.
This power is subject to certain important provisions. In the case of a demand
relating to a reserved subject, the Governor has the power of over-ruling the
decision of the Legislature if he certifies that the expenditure provided for in
the demand is essential to the discharge of his responsibility for the subject.
Another proviso limiting the powers of appropriation of the Legislature is
contained in Section 72D, Clause (2)( b), by virtue of which the Governor has
the “power in cases of emergency to authorise such expenditure as may be
in his opinion necessary for the safety or tranquillity of the Province, or for
the carrying on of any department.” These are also very serious limitations
on the powers of the Legislative Council, and I suggest that they should
be removed from the Act The powers given to the Governor under the first
proviso are out of place in a Government which is fully responsible and in
which the Governor is not charged with the direction of affairs. The safety
and tranquillity of the Province will not be a special concern of the Governor
any more than that of the responsible Executive. Consequently the power
given by the second proviso to the Governor is unnecessary and should be
taken away.
105. Another restraint on the financial powers of the Legislature is
embodied in Section 72D( 3). By virtue of this, the executive is not required
to submit to the Legislature for its vote expenditure on certain specified
heads mentioned therein. The result is that the Budget of the Province
contains permanent appropriations to a large extent which the Legislative
Council cannot touch. Theoretically speaking, every item of expenditure
should be sanctioned each year by the Legislature. But the Budget, in
almost every country, contains permanent appropriations which do not
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require to be voted annually by the Legislature. Even in England there has
grown up quite a list of permanent appropriations covering before the War
in the aggregate about one-third of the total annual expenditure. Whether
the Executive can or cannot be trusted to fix the amount and determine the
character of public expenditure depends upon the stage of development at
which people have arrived in their realisation of constitutional government.
If the stage be such that there exists an uncertainty concerning the political
rights of the Government and the people, it would not be safe to permit such
permanent appropriations of public moneys without Legislative sanction as are
contemplated by Section 72D(3). It is true that the foundation of responsible
government in the Provinces is just being laid and the Provincial Legislatures
have jealously to guard against the encroachments of the Executive. All
the same, it must, I think, be recognised that the right of popular control
over public affairs is recognised and will be under the new constitution
fully conceded, so that under the various checks upon the arbitrary use of
public authority the submission for annual sanction of every item of public
expenditure need not be insisted upon. I do not therefore object to this
scheme of permanent appropriations. But I object to their being made so
by law, thereby curtailing the powers of the Legislature. Their being made
a matter of law has had the effect of debarring the Legislature from even
discussing the policy underlying the administration of non-votable items.
The creation of non-votable items must be a matter of convenience. There
ought to be no restraint about them on the Legislature by law.
106. Power of controlling the Executive.—Originally Provincial Legislatures
under the reformed constitution of 1919 could control the Minister in three
ways : (1) by legislation, (2) by refusing supplies, and (3) by refusing or
reducing their salaries. The second and the third were the only two ways
whereby the Legislature could control the administration by the Ministers.
This control could normally be exercised only once a year, and was therefore
insufficient. Consequently provision was made in 1926 for a motion regarding
want of confidence in a Minister. These powers are sufficient for the
Legislature to control the actions of a Minister and were in keeping with
the idea that the Ministers were to be individually liable for their actions.
The future Ministry will be based upon the principle of joint responsibility
under which Ministers will stand together or fall together. There is nothing
in the existing powers of the Legislature to indicate that it desires to dismiss
the Ministry as a whole. I think provisions to this effect should be made
by adding a new class of motion to be called “a motion of no confidence“ as
distinguished from the existing motion, which should be renamed as “motion
questioning a Minister’s policy in a particular matter”. This was suggested
by the Muddiman Committee but was not carried out.
107. Power of altering the Constitution .—The Provincial Legislatures are
bound by the terms of the instrument which has created them. By virtue
of that instrument they are made bodies with “plenary powers” possessing
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a specific and defined power of government in their territory over all persons.
The plenary powers of government do not per se carry a power to alter the
constitution itself. There is a desire that the Provincial Legislatures should
have the powers of a constituent Assembly to alter the constitution of the
Province. There is much that can be said in favour of such a proposal.
Parliament having consented to grant self-government to the people of
the Province, it is as well that the people of the Province had the right to
decide the form of government under which they liked to live. But it must
be recognised that there are minorities who will not like their constitutional
rights to be determined by the majority, as would be the case if the Provincial
Legislatures were allowed the right to alter the constitution. This is the
principal reason why the constitution of Canada gives no power to the
Canadian Parliament to alter the constitution of Canada. There is, however,
the example of South Africa, which shows that the powers of altering the
constitution can be conferred on a Legislature without detriment to the position
of the minorities. There is therefore no reason why the example of South
Africa should not be followed. I recommend that the power of altering the
constitution of the Province should be granted to the Provincial Legislature;
provided that it shall have no power to alter the provisions regarding the
representation of minorities in the Legislature.
108. What special procedure should be prescribed for passing such
legislation is a matter which it is very difficult to decide. But it might,
however, be stated that the mode of amending the constitution should be
such as to make it sufficiently rigid to protect the fundamental rights of
the citizens but which should at the same time leave it flexible enough to
recognise that development is as much a law of life as existence and to secure
deliberation before action and final decision in harmony with the principle
of rule by majority. The safest course, it seems to me, would be to prescribe
different procedure for different kinds of amendments to the constitution. For
the more fundamental amendments the procedure should be more exacting
than for amendments to less fundamental parts of the constitution.