Vol. 2 · pages 521–525
In the Bombay Legislature, with the Simon Commission and at the Round Table Conferences
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Dr. Ambedkar with Mr. Muhammad Zafrulla Khan arriving at the
House of Lords for the Third R. T. C. in 1932
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PART III
Dr. Ambedkar
at the
Round Table Conferences
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IN THE PLENARY SESSION
Fifth Sitting—20th November 1930
NEED FOR POLITICAL POWER FOR DEPRESSED CLASSES
*Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: Mr. Chairman, my purpose in rising to address this
conference is principally to place before it the point of view of the depressed
classes, whom I and my colleague, Rao Bahadur Srinivasan, have the honour
to represent, regarding the question of constitutional reform. It is a point
of view of 43,000,000 people, or one-fifth of the total population of British
India. The depressed classes form a group by themselves which is distinct
and separate from the Muhammadans and, although they are included among
the Hindus, they in no sense form an integral part of that community. Not
only have they a separate existence, but they have also assigned to them a
statute which is invidiously distinct from the status occupied by any other
community in India. There are communities in India which occupy a lower
and subordinate position; but the position assigned to the depressed classes is
totally different. It. is one which is midway between that of the serf and the
slave, and which may, for convenience, be called servile with this difference,
that the serf and the slave were permitted to have physical contact, from
which the Depressed Classes are debarred. What is worse that this enforced
servility and bar to human intercourse, due to their untouchability, involves,
not merely the possibility of discrimination in public life, but actually works
out as a positive denial of all equality of opportunity and the denial of those
most elementary of civic rights on which all human existence depends. I am
sure that the point of view of such a community, as large as the population
of England or of France, and so heavily handicapped in the struggle for
existence, cannot but have some bearing on the right sort of solution of the
political problem, and I am anxious that this Conference should be placed
in possession of that point of view at the very start.
The point of view I will try to put as briefly as I can. It is this that
the bureaucratic form of Government in India should be replaced by
* Proceedings of the Round Table Conference (hereinafter referred to as R.T.C.) (First Session),
Government of India, Central Publication Branch, Calcutta, 1931, pp. 123-29.
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a Government which will be a Government of the people, by the people and
for the people. This statement of the view of the depressed classes I am sure
will be received with some surprise in certain quarters. The tie that bounds
the Depressed Classes to the British has been of a unique character. The
Depressed Classes welcomed the British as their deliverers from age long
tyranny and oppression by the orthodox Hindus. They fought their battles
against the Hindus, the Mussalmans and the Sikhs and won for them this
great Empire of India. The British, on their side, assumed the role of trustees
for the depressed classes. In view of such an intimate relationship between
the parties, this change in the attitude of the depressed classes towards
British Rule in India is undoubtedly a most momentous phenomenon. But
the reasons for this change of attitude are not far to seek. We have not taken
this decision simply because we wish to throw in our lot with the majority.
Indeed, as you know, there is not much love lost between the majority and
the particular minority I represent. Ours is an independent decision. We
have judged of the existing administration solely in the light of our own
circumstances and we have found it wanting in some of the most essential
elements of a good Government. When we compare our present position with
the one which it was our lot to bear in Indian society of the pre-British days,
we find that, instead of marching on, we are only marking time. Before the
British, we were in the loathsome condition due to our untouchability. Has
the British Government done anything to remove it ? Before the British, we
could not enter the temple. Can we enter now ? Before the British, we were
denied entry into the Police Force. Does the British Government admit us in
the Force ? Before the British, we were not allowed to serve in the Military.
Is that career now open to us ? To none of these questions can we give an
affirmative answer. That the British, who have held so large a sway over
us for such a long time, have done some good we cheerfully acknowledge.
But there is certainly no fundamental change in our position. Indeed, so
far as we were concerned, the British Government has accepted the social
arrangements as it found them, and has preserved them faithfully in the
manner of the Chinese tailor who, when given an old coat as a pattern,
produced with pride an exact replica, rents, patches and all. Our wrongs
have remained as open sores and they have not been righted, although 150
years of British rule have rolled away.
We do not accuse the British of indifference or want of sympathy. What
we do find is that they are quite incompetent to tackle our problems.
If the case was one of indifference only it would have been a matter of
small moment, and it would not have made such a profound change in
our attitude. But what we have come to realise on a deeper analysis of
the situation is that it is not merely a case of indifference, rather it is a
case of sheer incompetence to undertake the task. The depressed classes
find that the British Government in India suffers from two very serious