Vol. 10 · pages 796–800
As Member of the Governor-General's Executive Council, 1942–46
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a monthly contribution of Rs. 13,000 to the Indian Labour
Federation through Mr. M. N. Roy. If so, for what purpose ? If
the amount of contribution is more or less than this figure, will
the Honourable Member please state the correct figure ?
(b) Have any accounts been rendered for the money so
contributed to the Indian Labour Federation ? If not, why not ?
(c) If the reply to first portion of part (b) above be in the
affirmative, will the Honourable Member please lay on the table
of the House copies of such statements received for the last six
months ? If not, why not ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: (a) A monthly grant
of Rs. 13,000 is made to the Indian Federation of Labour for
doing propaganda to keep up the morale of industrial labour.
(b) Yes, Sir.
(c) No. The accounts are subject to the same scrutiny as all
public accounts and no useful purpose would be served by placing
them on the table.
Mr. Lalchand Navalrai: Is he authorised to distribute that
money to other persons for the purpose of propaganda ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : It is not given to
him; the grant is made to the Indian Federation of Labour.
Mr. Lalchand Navalrai: That means, the person who is in
charge of the Federation. Can he distribute that money to other
people asking them to go and do propaganda ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I have no information
as to how the money will be distributed.
Mr. Lalchand Navalrai: Will the Honourable Member
enquire into it because accounts have to be made ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : The accounts are
audited as all other public accounts are.
Mr. Lalchand Navalrai: Does the Honourable Member
know how this amount is shown to have been distributed ? Is
it shown by the audit?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I have no
information, but the accounts are scrutinised in the same way
as all other public accounts.
Dr. Sir Zia Uddin Ahmad : Have the Federation made any
rule and submitted the same to the Government, regulating the
manner in which this grant should be spent ?
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The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I have no information
on that.
Mr. Lalchand Navalrai: Will the Honourable Member make
an enquiry into it ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : If the Honourable
Member will care to put a question, I will make enquiries.
Dr. Sir Zia Uddin Ahmad : I do not know how accounts will
be audited if there are no rules for distribution.
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I am sure that the
public accounts officer must satisfy himself, that there are some
rules according to which the money is spent.
Mr. Badri Dutt Pande : Are there any other associations which
are getting money like this ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I must have notice
of that question.
Dr. Sir Zia Uddin Ahmad : There ought to be some rules by
means of which it can be ensured that Mr. Roy does not spend the
whole money on his friends.
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I had no idea that the
Honourable Member had any justification to presume that there
were no rules.
Dr. Sir Zia Uddin Ahmad : That is the impression which one
gets, because Government showed ignorance.
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : Government have not
shown ignorance. My answer was that the accounts are subject to
the same scrutiny as other public accounts are.
Mr. T. T. Krishnamachari : Has the Honourable Member
satisfied himself that this is the only organisation that will help
the Government to keep up the morale of labour ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : I have no information.
I must have notice of that question.
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* Ejectment Cases in Delhi Courts
@ 782. Khan Bahadur Shaikh Fazl-i-Haq Piracha : (a) Will
the Honourable the Labour Member be pleased to state the number of
ejectment cases filed in Delhi Court since the extension of Punjab Rent
* Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. III of 1944, 4th April 1944, pp. 1919-20.
@ Answer to this question laid on the table, the questioner being absent.
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Restriction Act to Delhi Province ? How many have been disposed
of and how many are still pending in Courts ?
(b) Is he aware that immediately after enforcement of the
Punjab Rent Restriction Act in Delhi Municipal Area, landlords
asked a number of tenants to vacate residential houses and flats
for landlords’ own occupation ? Are Government aware that a
large majority of such claims was false and the houses were let
to the same or other parties on payment of Nazrana ?
(c) Will he be pleased to give instructions for enacting Control
Orders throughout Delhi Province providing that no residential
house or flat should be vacated so long as the tenant pays or is
willing to pay controlled rent ?
(d) Is he aware that landlords in Delhi generally refuse to
carry out repairs to their property since the enforcement of
Control Orders ? If so, will he be pleased to state what steps he
proposes to take to penalise the landlords for refusing to attend
to their property ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : (a) The number
of suits instituted upto the 28th of March 1944 was 1,444. Of
these 888 had been disposed of and 556 were pending.
(b) Yes. I understand that the local authorities have received
complaints to this effect.
(c) Government have certain measures under consideration.
(d) The local authorities have received some complaints and
the matter is under consideration.
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* Publication of Railway Labour Supervisor’s
Annual Report
262. Mr. Lalchand Navalrai : With reference to the
Honourable the Labour Member’s reply to unstarred question
No. 43, asked on the 10th February, 1943, in regard to the
publication of Railway Labour Supervisor’s annual report, will
the Honourable Member ensure the publication of brief reports
by way of press communiques for the information of interests
concerned ? If not, why not ?
* Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. III of 1944, 4th April 1944, pp. 1924-25.
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The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : The Honourable
Member presumably refers to the unstarred question No. 43,
asked on the 10th February 1944.
The question of issuing Press Communiques on the annual
reports of the Supervisor of Railway Labour, is under consideration
of the Government.
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* Maintenance of Roads within Shahdara, Delhi
263. Mr. G. Rangiah Naidu: Will the Honourable Member
for Labour please state the authority (Municipal Committee
or Central Public Works Department) responsible for the
maintenance in good order of roads within the Shahdara Town,
Delhi Province ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: The Notified Area
Committee, Shahdara, is responsible for the maintenance of
roads within the Shahdara Town.
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@ Applications under the Payment of Wages Act
against Illegal Deductions, etc., on East Indian
and North Western Railways
266. Mr. Ananga Mohan Dam : Will the Honourable Member
for Labour please state the number of applications from Railway
employees for direction under the Payment of Wages Act, for the
refund of deductions and for the payment of delayed wages made
since March 1938, against the East Indian and North Western
Railway Administrations, respectively, together with the result
of the disposal of those applications. If not, why not ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: Attention of
the Honourable Member is invited to the reply given to Mr.
Muhammad Azhar Ali’s unstarred question No. 222 on 30th
March 1944.
* Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. III of 1944, 4th April 1944, p. 1925.
@ Ibid., p. 1925.
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* Government Contribution to Indian Labour
Federation
31. Mr. Lalchand Navalrai : (a) With reference to the reply
to my starred question No. 776 given on the 4th April, 1944,
will the Honourable the Labour Member be pleased to state
whether the sum of Rs. 13,000 given monthly to the Indian
Labour Federation has been distributed amongst the President,
Vice-Presidents and other office-bearers of the Federation ? If
so, in what proportion ?
(b) Has the Honourable Member looked into the audited
accounts of the Federation to find out how this money has been
utilized ? If not, why not ? If so, does he propose to place the
audited accounts on the table of the House from the date the
subsidy of Rs. 13,000 a month was paid up to this day ?
(c) Is it a fact that this question came up before the
International Labour Conference, which met at Philadelphia in
the form of the comparative representative character of the Indian
Labour Federation and the All-India Trade Union Congress,
and what was the decision of the Conference ? What has been
decided for the future representation of the Indian Labour on the
International Labour Conference to be given to an organization
not living on subsidy ?
(d) Have all the funds paid to the Indian Labour Federation
been spent on the object for which they were given ? If so, will
he give a brief account of the activities of the Federation in this
respect ? If any part thereof has not been used for the purpose for
which it was granted, will the Honourable Member please take
steps to have that much portion refunded to the Government ?
If not, why not ?
The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar : (a) The grant is
made to the Indian Federation of Labour as an organisation and
is not distributed among its several office bearers.
(b) and (d) (First part) Government are not concerned with
the accounts of the Federation, but with the manner in which the
Government contribution has been spent by the Federation. They are
satisfied that although full and regular accounts are not available for
* Legislative Assembly Debates (Central), Vol. IV of 1944, 2nd November 1944, pp.
111-13.