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394 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES The motion was adopted. Mr. Deputy Speaker: So the President’s order stands modified by these amendments. Several hon. Members: It is time to adjourn, Sir. Shri Kamath : Before the House adjourns may I bring to your notice the understanding arrived at about the question list for the 2nd, which had been postponed to the 9th. I trust that arrangement stands and that list will be taken up tomorrow. Mr. Deputy Speaker: That will stand. Will the Law Minister indicate the order in which he is going to take these delimitation orders ? Dr. Ambedkar: I do not think the House will complain that they were taken by surprise, if sometimes I take some orders out of turn. All of them have been before them. Mr. Deputy Speaker: All the orders will be completed tomorrow. The House then adjourned till Half Past Eight of the Clock on Saturday, the 9th June 1951. *Shri P. G. Sen : ………There is one inter-district constituency known by the name of Darbhanga-cum-Bhagalpur, vide Delimitation Order, page 3. In page 4 there is another constituency as Purnea- cum-Bhagaipur. Mr. Speaker: Order, order, hon. Members may carry on their consultations elsewhere and not disturb the House. Shri P. G. Sen: My point in moving the motion is that the common ground is Bhagalpur. It can be amalgamated either this way or that. The question of amalgamation and the formation of the constituency is the question which I want to raise……….. Dr. Ambedkar: I have understood the point and I can reply to it in one sentence. * P. D., Vol. 13, Part II, 9th June 1951, pp. 10518-19.

395PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES Shri P. G. Sen: Yes, Dr. Ambedkar can answer in a word or in a sentence. Mr. Speaker: Order, order. The hon. Member will address the Chair. Shri P. G. Sen: Certainly Dr. Ambedkar is a better orator than myself. In bringing this motion before the House the question that arose in my mind was: am I doing injustice to Bhagalpur, or am I doing injustice to Darbhanga, or to Purnea ? Not at all. The river Kosi divides the two districts of Bhagalpur and Purnea, and sufficient public money has been spent in undertaking aerial flights over this area ........... Just imagine the state of those flood-devastated Kosi area for which this House has on more than on occasion been pressing to hurry up with the construction of the Kosi Project. Dr. Ambedkar: This is becoming an irrigation department event. Shri P. G. Sen: Another point I wish to submit is that I wish to amalgamate the entire area of Bhagalpur with Darbhanga and make it a plural constituency with reservation for a scheduled caste seat. The scheduled caste voters in Darbhanga are nearly 2,50,000 and Bhagalpur portion of Purnea-cum-Bhagalpur constituency has 71,000 voters (Scheduled Caste) so if that entire area of Bhagalpur in Purnea-cum-Bhagalpur Constituency is amalgamated with this Darbhananga- cum-Bhagalpur area a plural-member constituency can be formed. It would not be out of place to mention here that there is a topographical error in amendment No. 1 of Supplementary List No. 2 where in column 3 it is shown as “2” whereas in column 4 it is shown as nil; in column 4 “1” should be inserted. * Shri P. G. Sen: May I submit to you Sir, that this is the only House where one can demand some justice done ? * P. D., Vol. 13, Part II, 9th June 1951, p. 10521.

396 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES Mr. Speaker: Order, order, I may tell the hon. Member that the House will certainly do justice, but to have what one wants is not necessarily justice—though it may be so from one’s own point of view, he has to leave it to the good sense of other people also who have no interest in doing injustice to anyone. Dr. Ambedkar: There is only one point that I would like to mention in connection with the motion made by my friend, and it is this that the constituency that he proposes will have a total number of electors of 4,43,524 as against the maximum limit of 3,87,929. That objection itself is fatal to his proposal. Shri P. G. Sen: But it is a plural-member constituency. Dr. Ambedkar: So that is fatal to his proposal. Mr. Speaker: So I am going to put the motion of Shri P. G. Sen to vote. (No. 1 in Supplementary List No. 2— Bihar Order). The question is : [For text of the motion see Amendment No. 1 S. L. 2 printed in Appendix XXXIII, Annexure 1.] The motion was negatived. Dr. Ambedkar: Amendment No. 3 part 3 in Supplementary List No. 6, that is the amendment of Shri Jajware as modified by the amendment of Shri S. N. Das. * Mr. Speaker: Now, I would like the House, at the end of the motions relating to each province, to pass a sort of a motion to the effect that consequential amendments in respect of the order relating to that particular State may be made under the authority of the Speaker, so that the draftsman and the Department will examine all these and set them right. The amendments will be strictly consequential and not substantial. Dr. Ambedkar: For that purpose I shall be moving a separate amendment conferring upon you the power to permit * P. D., Vol. 13, Part II, 9th June 1951, pp. 10528-32.

397PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES the draftsman, in consultation with you, to make certain consequental amendments. Mr. Speaker: So we shall do it by one comprehensive motion at the end of the orders. As regards the other motions I take it that hon. Members who have moved them will have the leave of the House to withdraw them. The amendments were, by leave withdrawn. BOMBAY ORDER Dr. Ambedkar: Sir, I am prepared to accept the following amendments : Supplementary List No. 1, Amendments No. 1 to 8 of Shri Shankar Rao Deo and others. They are purely consequential amendments. List No. 2, Amendment No. 2 of Shri Nijalingappa and Shri Munavalli; subject to the modification that in the entry against South Satara for “Item (15)” the words “Item (57)” be substituted. Then I propose to accept: In List No. 3, amendment No. 3, parts (1) and (2) by Shri Deogirikar and Shri Kumbhar. In List No. 6, amendments Nos. 1 and 2, subject to the modification that against the entry Kolhapur-cum-Satara the words “The whole” at the beginning of the entry in column 2 are to be omitted. In List No. 7, amendment No. 2, part 2, by Shri Hiray and Shri Deogirikar. Then in List No. 8, I propose to withdraw amendments Nos. 1, 2 and 4 because they have already been covered by amendment No. 2 of List No. 6. Then I propose to accept: In List No. 8, amendments nos. 3 and 5 to 11. In amendment No. 11, page 11, under item (64) for “Mahagond” substitute “Mamewadi”—which is a verbal change being a change of name—and “Gajargaon” at the end. Then I accept: In List No. 10, amendments 1, 2 and 3 by Shri Nijalingappa. Mr. Speaker: In the list that he has given only 2 and 3 are mentioned.

398 DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR : WRITINGS AND SPEECHES Dr. Ambedkar: It was a mistake. I am accepting 1, 2 and 3. Shri Kumbhar (Bombay): The amendment in list No. 6 is in my name. But my name is droppd. Mr. Speaker: The name is there and the motion has already been made. Nothing further has to be done in respect of it now except the voting. Let him not worry about his name. We will see that it is properly put in. Shri Kumbhar: There is another one excluding Kagal Taluk. Dr. Ambedkar: Sir, those are changes which could be done by the draftsman on your authority. Mr. Speaker: If they are consequential amendments. If we accept the substance they will be made. Shri Bhatt: rose— Dr. Ambedkar : My friend, I know, Sir, is particular about the mentioning of Santa Cruz’ and so on. I have told him that those amendments will be made on your authority by the draftsman under the resolution I am proposing at the end. Mr. Speaker: As regards the details of mentioning Santa Cruz or this road or excluding Kagal or bringing it in, let all the proposals by the hon. Members be made to the draftsman and let them discuss with him. He will consider them and, if necessary, I will pass orders. Dr. Ambedkar: That is what I propose to ask. Shri Bhatt: That is what I wanted to ask, whether changes in names would be made by your orders. Dr. Ambedkar: As I said, I am going to move a motion. The substance of the motion will be that you will be empowered to instruct the draftsman to make certain changes of a purely formal character. When the House passes the motion the Speaker will have the necessary power to do the needful. Mr. Speaker: This difficulty arises because some of the Members are not present from time to time and therefore they