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In the Bombay Legislature, with the Simon Commission and at the Round Table Conferences
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reason of their numbers. This is a substantial grievance which must be
keenly felt as indicated by the evidence from Karnatak. This grievance is
bound to increase as the responsible character of the Legislative Council
increases and with it the influence which it will exercise upon the conduct
of public affairs. There is, therefore, too much reason to fear that instead
of dying out, the bitterness of feeling will become more and more acute. It
is, therefore, proper that at a time when we are overhauling the machinery
of Government with a view to make it a representative and a responsible
government, this grievance should also be redressed.
86. The evil of over-representation of some parts of this Presidency at the
expense of other parts was due to the fact that the Southborough Committee
acted quite capriciously and refused to follow any definite principle in the
matter of the distribution of seats. I am glad to find that my colleagues
have sought to follow a uniform principle in the matter of distribution of
seats as far as possible. But my complaint is that they have taken the worst
possible principle as the basis of the distribution of seats. Contributions to
the exchequer, electors on the roll and population in the constituency are the
three conceivable tests that can be adopted as the basis for the distribution
of seats. Of these three the test of the electors is the most unjust and
indefinite. In the first place where the franchise is so restricted as we now
have, it means the rule of wealth. It means that if any particular area on
any arbitrary test of property qualification does not produce the basic quota
of electors it should go without representation. That this must be inevitable
consequence of following the test of electors is clearly brought out in the
distribution proposed by the Majority for the Depressed Classes, according
to which the Depressed Classes of some parts have enormous representation
while those of the other part of the Presidency have no representation at
all. A theory which produces such an absurd result must be regarded as
indefensible and must be ruled out. Revenue is a better test than the test
of electorates. For it may be argued that the power to influence government
should be commensurate with the revenue paid to Government. This test must
even be rejected as being deceptive and inadequate, owing to the fact that
as all revenue might not be paid when it is earned, it would be difficult to
know the true revenue of a State. A constituency in which a large revenue
is earned may suffer in distribution of seats because it is paid in another.
But the most fatal objection to both these tests is that the State does not
exist for the benefit of the electors or the tax-payers. Nor does the State limit
its coercive action to them. Its jurisdiction extends over all the people who
are its subjects irrespective of the question whether or not he is a tax-payer
or an elector. From that it follows that the population is the only test for
a just and proper distribution of seats. That is the test applied in England
and in all countries which have a representative system of government, and
I recommend that the seats for the Bombay Legislative Council should be
distributed on that basis.
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III. Other aspects of the distribution of seats
87. The want of principle which is noticeable in the distribution of seats
among the minorities as proposed by my colleagues is also noticeable in
the distribution of seats they have proposed between Capital and Labour,
and between Landlords and Tenants. To capital as represented through
Commerce and Industry they have given 11 seats, while to labour they give
only four. To tenants they give none except what they can scrape through
in the general election ; while to the landlords they give five. But this is not
correct for if we take into consideration the Sind members and others from
the Presidency, the seats to the landlords in the Council might easily come
up to forty. Nor can I say that my colleagues have paid sufficient attention
to the question of the proper distribution of seats between urban and rural
areas. The Legislature is at present too much at the mercy of the rural classes
and there is a great danger of governmental powers being exploited in the
name of the agriculturists for legalising dangerous fads such as permanent
settlements, cheap irrigation and free forests. If such fads are to be kept
out of the statute book it is necessary to increase the representation of the
urban classes whose representation is not commensurate with their ability
or their contribution. It would have been better if my colleagues had left
the task of a proper distribution of seats between the different parts of the
Presidency to a separate Committee. I cannot say they have succeeded in
doing justice to the weaker parties. I would suggest that a separate committee
should be appointed to deal with this problem.
IV. Seats and residential qualification
88. Under rule 6(1)( b) of the Bombay Electoral Rules, a residential
qualification is prescribed for candidates for election to the Legislative
Council. The rule lays down that “No person shall be eligible for election
as a member of the Council to represent a general constituency unless
he has for the period of six months immediately preceding the last date
fixed for the nomination of candidates in the constituency, resided in
the constituency or in a division any part of which is included in the
constituency.” The rule has been interpreted in this Presidency to mean
that actual or habitual residence in the constituency (and not merely a
place of residence or occasional visits to it) is necessary before a candidate
can stand for election from a particular constituency. Before I give my own
opinion on this question I would like to state briefly the history of this
restriction so far as this Presidency is concerned. Paragraph 84 of the Joint
Report commented on the fact that a noteworthy result of the electoral
system then existing was the large percentage of the members of the legal
profession who succeeded at elections and went on to point out that so great
a predominance of men of one calling in the political field was clearly not in
the interests of the general community and suggested that in framing the
new constituencies an important object to be borne in mind was to ensure
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that men of other class and occupations found a sufficient number of seats in
the councils and that it was possible that this could be done by prescribing
certain definite qualifications for rural seats. The question was carefully
examined by the Southborough Committee, who in paragraph 29 of their
report referred to the fact that some of the local governments, namely, those
of the United Provinces, Behar and Orissa and Assam did not press for the
insertion of the residential qualification, while the Governments of Bengal,
Bombay, Madras and the Punjab held that it would be detrimental to the
interests of a large proportion of the new electorate to admit as candidates,
persons who were not resident in the areas they sought to represent. The
majority of the Southborough Committee were on principle opposed to the
residential qualification, but they resolved, by way of a compromise, to impose
the restriction in the Central Provinces. Bombay and the Punjab but not
in the remaining provinces. The Government of India, in expressing their
views upon the recommendations of the Southborough Committee, accepted
those recommendations, but pointed out that the Committee’s treatment of
the question had placed them in some difficulty in that while the Committee
accepted the views of some of the local governments in favour of the
restriction, they discarded the views of some others who equally pressed
for it. The Joint Parliamentary Committee on the Government of India Bill
recommended that the compromise suggested by the Franchise Committee
should be accepted. This was done and the residential qualification was
imposed only in the Central Provinces, Bombay and the Punjab. I would
point out that subsequent to this the residential qualification was done
away with in the Punjab in the revision of the rules which proceeded
the General Elections of 1923. The Punjab Government themselves in
the opinion which they gave to the Muddiman Committee stated that
for the first general elections the residential qualification wave the rural
representatives an entry from which they had not been dispossessed, and
there appeared to be no adequate reason for restoring the qualification.
The position at present therefore is that Bombay and the Central Provinces
are the only provinces in which the residential qualification still exists. In
the Central Provinces the restriction is not interpreted as strictly as it is
in this Presidency. It is, in my opinion, difficult to justify the retention of
this restriction in this the most advanced Province in India when provinces
much more backward have felt no necessity for it. The retention of this
qualification is, in my opinion, to some extent responsible for the election
of inferior men to the Councils and for the keeping out of the Councils
men of position, ability and proved political capacity who are mostly found
in the larger urban areas and who by the existence of the qualification
are prevented from seeking election anywhere else if for some reason they
are unable to secure election from their own residential area. I therefore
recommend that the residential qualification should now be abolished so
far as this Presidency is concerned.
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CHAPTER 4
LUCKNOW PACT
89. I am aware that my recommendations regarding the substitution
of joint electorates for communal electorates and the distribution of seats
conflict with the terms of the Lucknow Pact in so far as they affect the
representation of the Mohamedan community. The representation of the
Mohamedan community as settled under the rules framed in 1919 was
largely based upon what is known as the Lucknow Pact. This pact embodies
an agreement arrived at in 1917 at Lucknow between the Moslem League
and the Congress, the former acting on behalf of the Mohamedans and
the latter on behalf of the Hindus. It gave to the Mohamedans communal
electorates and a varying proportion of seats in the Provincial and Central
Legislature. I realise that the views I have put forth on the representation
of the Mohamedan community are subversive of this agreement, and I feel
that it is incumbent upon me to state why I think that this agreement
should be scrapped.
90. My first argument is that the settlement embodied in the Lucknow
Pact is wrong settlement. This was admitted by all the local governments.
The Government of India in their Despatch reviewing the recommendations
of the Franchise Committee to the Secretary of State, reported : “We note
that local governments were not unanimous in subscribing to the compact.
The Government of Madras framed their own proposals for Mohamedan
representation without regard to it. The Bombay Government, while adopting
the compact, did not rule out from discussion a scheme of representation
upon a basis of population. The Chief Commissioner of the Central Provinces
was opposed to separate Mohamedan electorates and considered that the
percentage proposed in the compact was ‘wholly disproportionate to the
strength and standing of the community.’ The Chief Commissioner of
Assam thought it was a mistake even from a Muslim point of view to give
that community representation in excess of their numerical proportion.”
Nor did the Government of India differ from this view generally held by
the Provincial Governments. Evaluating the results of the Lucknow Pact
in the different Provinces, they observed, “the result is that while Bengal
Mohamedans get only three-quarters and the Punjab Mohamedans ninetenths of what they would receive upon a population basis, the Mohamedans
of other Provinces have got good terms and some of them extravagantly
good. We cannot ourselves feel that such a result represents the right
relation either between Mohamedans in different Provinces, or between
Mohamedans and the rest of the community”. Sir William Vincent, in a
note of dissent, went so far as to say, “In my view……we should proceed
without regard to the details of the Lucknow Settlement to fulfil our own
pledges to the Mohamedans in what we ourselves think is the best way.”
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91. The wrong in the Lucknow Pact is not so much that it treated the
Mohamedans in the different Provinces in a dissimilar manner, providing
for them generously in some and niggardly in others. This is comparatively
speaking a small matter. The principal defect in the Lucknow Pact is that
in allotting the seats to the Mohamedans it did not take into consideration
the effect it will have upon other interests. The framers of the pact, as
pointed out by the Government of India, failed to remember that whatever
advantage is given to the Mohamedans is taken away from some other interest
or interests. Sir William Vincent, too, was careful enough to point this out.
He also said in his minute of dissent, “The compact meets with much more
acceptance than criticism of the present time; but hereafter, when the value
of votes and representation comes to be realised, it must be expected drat
the interests which are hard hit by it will complain with some injustice that
the Government of India should have endorsed it.” The extent to which this
prediction has been realised is remarkable, and the universal dissatisfaction
that is felt with the result of the Lucknow Pact is more than sufficient
testimony to show that settlement embodied in the Lucknow Settlement is
a wrong settlement. Now there can be nothing improper in asking that what
is wrongly settled shall be re-settled. Such a demand is bound to meet with
opposition from the Mohamedan community. Having obtained representation
on an extravagant scale, they are sure to take their stand on precedent
and past rights. But as Thomas Paine pointed out, the error of those who
reason by precedents drawn from antiquity respecting their rights is that
they would not take that time to the starting point when no vested rights
existed. If they did they would realise that rights, far from being immutable,
are historical accidents and are therefore liable to readjustment from time
to time. This must be so, for all political and social progress is based upon
the maxim that wrong cannot have a legal descent and that what is not
rightly settled is never settled.
This is not the only instance in which a pact like the Lucknow Pact
is sought to be revised. The Act of Union between Ireland and England
was also a pact of the same sort. It certainly had a far greater binding
force than the Lucknow Pact. In fact it was regarded as a treaty which
guaranteed to Ireland 100 seats in Parliament. All the same, Mr. Balfour’s
Government, when it found that the excessive representation granted to
Ireland had become a positive wrong, did not hesitate to bring in a Bill in
1905 which would have had the effect of reducing the Irish seats by 30.
That owing to the resignation of Mr. Balfour’s Government the Bill did not
become law is another matter. But the fact remains that a revision of the
Irish Settlement in the matter of the representation was not excluded by
the fact that the settlement was based upon an agreement between the two
parties. Nor was Mr. Balfour agreeable to the view that such revision could
be carried out only with the consent of Ireland. Indeed, he had launched
upon the scheme of redistribution in the teeth of the Irish opposition. But
it is not necessary to go so far a field to find a precedent when there is